Allan, while murder may be premeditated, almost all definitions include the notion of it being a crime… of being against the law. To kill when it isn’t against the law is merely killing…not murder.
http://www.onelook.com/?w=murder&ls=a http://www.onelook.com/?w=kill&ls=a Yes, this is a truth of semantics only and perhaps not of a lot of importance; however, since we only have our words to play with here, maybe we can use them correctly and in mutual agreement… On Aug 6, 10:41 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > sorry Orn murder is killing with premeditation, any one deciding to kill > some one is committing murder. the state may not be accountable because it > is a non being .. but those that make the decisions (sentences) and > carrying out the act are.. "I was just doing my job." is not an excuse. > Allan > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 11:25 PM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > To be a little pedantic here, to murder is to kill when such killing > > is against the law. Killing is just killing. So, by definition, > > murder, being against the law is 'wrong'...at least by some societal > > rules. > > When a person is put to death for a crime, it is killing but not > > murder. Is this too 'wrong'? > > > On Aug 6, 10:20 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Death is something very hard to emotionally deal with,, I am glad to see > > > you talking about their death among friends.. to me murder is always > > > wrong. > > > Allan > > > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, pol.science kid <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > hi there everyone... well... this recent... in fact happened > > > > yesterday... incident... rather unfortunate...has had me thinking ...A > > > > family murdered... just behind our block.... A maid..in fact our > > > > neighbors maid...and her two sons..aged 12 and 15.... The woman...had > > > > a reputation... she was promiscous... and it is said the murderer was > > > > one of her jealous lovers... What is more chilling than the > > > > murder...is the insensitivity towards it.. the cold reaction.... i > > > > cant help thinking that if was in fact her employers who were murdered > > > > that case and reaction wouldve been quite different... leave alone her > > > > socio economic standing... even the fact that she was much treated > > > > like a neighborhood slut... some people seem to think she had it > > > > coming... that her lifestyle deserved such an end... A life ended... > > > > three lives.. brutally.... but the speed with which everything has > > > > been swept in.... is life so cheap after all... that no one had time > > > > to shed a tear... so what that she was percieved as a nasty person.. > > > > even nature wise... so what if she had been dishonest.... her death > > > > needs acknowledgement.... her murder in fact... and the innocent > > > > children... Murder is a violation of the highest degree... torture and > > > > rape come after it.... how did we become so insensitive... some human > > > > murdered at close quarters it is but an inconvinience for all... no > > > > one will seek justice for her... no one wept for her save one distant > > > > cousin..... Are we so accustomed to crime now..... > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
