"As an aside, very few can direct their dreams in the dream state. This
alone is about 1/3 of our life."
Very interesting concept, to say thte least. And I would have
to agree to point of uncertainty, however, another edge to this
conceptn is the fact that while not easily
able to control the dream actions in a dream, one can quite easily
influence the topic: (choosing a destination)
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM, ornamentalmind
<[email protected]> wrote:
> As an aside, very few can direct their dreams in the dream state. This
> alone is about 1/3 of our life.
>
> On Aug 2, 12:53 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Of the various choices before you , you choose to do that which your
>> nature decides upon at any given moment. You may let go an opportunity
>> now to fiercely grasp at a later moment. The choice, of course , is
>> yours but you are under the control of various motivating forces
>> which, taking control of your very free will, make you do that which
>> the strongest force within you at a given moment wants to be done.
>> That which you do today you will not do tomorrow and all with a
>> seemingly free will. You can con yourself by opening and closing your
>> grip that you are the master , but you are not. It is only your
>> reasoning processes which are at play , which take control over you at
>> times just as your basic desires. When you think it appears that you
>> are thinking freely but actually it is some part of your personality
>> which is carrying you along. If you take psycho-tropic drugs you will
>> think and act in a bizarre manner but with what to you is free will.
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>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Jo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I don't understand how some can say we don't have free will. You can
>> > choose to do anything you want at any given time. How is that not free
>> > will?
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>> > On Aug 2, 12:51 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> "We have access to a technology that would have looked like sorcery in
>> >> Descartes's day: the ability to peer inside someone's head and read
>> >> their thoughts. Unfortunately, that doesn't take us any nearer to
>> >> knowing whether they are sentient. "Even if you measure brainwaves,
>> >> you can never know exactly what experience they represent," says
>> >> psychologist Bruce Hood at the University of Bristol, UK. If
>> >> anything, brain scanning has undermined Descartes's maxim. You, too,
>> >> might be a zombie. "I happen to be one myself," says Stanford
>> >> University philosopher Paul Skokowski. "And so, even if you don't
>> >> realise it, are you." Skokowski's assertion is based on the belief,
>> >> particularly common among neuroscientists who study brain scans, that
>> >> we do not have free will. There is no ghost in the machine; our
>> >> actions are driven by brain states that lie entirely beyond our
>> >> control. "I think, therefore I am" might be an illusion.
>> >> So, it may well be that you live in a computer simulation in which you
>> >> are the only self-aware creature. I could well be a zombie and so
>> >> could you. Have an interesting day." (from a recent New Scientist)
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>> >> We range over debates in free will and what it is to be human. So far
>> >> we haven't established free will or even that we are not merely
>> >> avatars in 'something else's game'.
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>> >> I wonder whether there are advantages in considering ourselves as
>> >> creatures limited by programming and also capable of it?
