I don't know, Allan. This is the "my fellow zombies" thread and not your robot joke thread.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:51 AM, allan deheretic <[email protected]>wrote: > so I have this right Gabby? "Sig Heil" not sure it that is right.. but > what said is actuall right it just struck me as funny. > Allan > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:35 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Choosing a destination, yes, or how I read it: reviewing the motivation. >> Have I reached total command over my Self? Coupled with a well established >> the-One-and-the-Many ideology this makes for an ideal Führer-personality. >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:36 AM, edward mason >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> "As an aside, very few can direct their dreams in the dream state. This >>> alone is about 1/3 of our life." >>> Very interesting concept, to say thte least. And I would have >>> to agree to point of uncertainty, however, another edge to this >>> conceptn is the fact that while not easily >>> able to control the dream actions in a dream, one can quite easily >>> influence the topic: (choosing a destination) >>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM, ornamentalmind >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > As an aside, very few can direct their dreams in the dream state. This >>> > alone is about 1/3 of our life. >>> > >>> > On Aug 2, 12:53 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> Of the various choices before you , you choose to do that which your >>> >> nature decides upon at any given moment. You may let go an opportunity >>> >> now to fiercely grasp at a later moment. The choice, of course , is >>> >> yours but you are under the control of various motivating forces >>> >> which, taking control of your very free will, make you do that which >>> >> the strongest force within you at a given moment wants to be done. >>> >> That which you do today you will not do tomorrow and all with a >>> >> seemingly free will. You can con yourself by opening and closing your >>> >> grip that you are the master , but you are not. It is only your >>> >> reasoning processes which are at play , which take control over you at >>> >> times just as your basic desires. When you think it appears that you >>> >> are thinking freely but actually it is some part of your personality >>> >> which is carrying you along. If you take psycho-tropic drugs you will >>> >> think and act in a bizarre manner but with what to you is free will. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > I don't understand how some can say we don't have free will. You can >>> >> > choose to do anything you want at any given time. How is that not >>> free >>> >> > will? >>> >> >>> >> > On Aug 2, 12:51 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> "We have access to a technology that would have looked like sorcery >>> in >>> >> >> Descartes's day: the ability to peer inside someone's head and read >>> >> >> their thoughts. Unfortunately, that doesn't take us any nearer to >>> >> >> knowing whether they are sentient. "Even if you measure brainwaves, >>> >> >> you can never know exactly what experience they represent," says >>> >> >> psychologist Bruce Hood at the University of Bristol, UK. If >>> >> >> anything, brain scanning has undermined Descartes's maxim. You, >>> too, >>> >> >> might be a zombie. "I happen to be one myself," says Stanford >>> >> >> University philosopher Paul Skokowski. "And so, even if you don't >>> >> >> realise it, are you." Skokowski's assertion is based on the belief, >>> >> >> particularly common among neuroscientists who study brain scans, >>> that >>> >> >> we do not have free will. There is no ghost in the machine; our >>> >> >> actions are driven by brain states that lie entirely beyond our >>> >> >> control. "I think, therefore I am" might be an illusion. >>> >> >> So, it may well be that you live in a computer simulation in which >>> you >>> >> >> are the only self-aware creature. I could well be a zombie and so >>> >> >> could you. Have an interesting day." (from a recent New Scientist) >>> >> >>> >> >> We range over debates in free will and what it is to be human. So >>> far >>> >> >> we haven't established free will or even that we are not merely >>> >> >> avatars in 'something else's game'. >>> >> >>> >> >> I wonder whether there are advantages in considering ourselves as >>> >> >> creatures limited by programming and also capable of it? >>> >> >> > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > >
