I don't think you want to bottle fear and terror.. a lot of Christianity is filled with threats so is Islam .. if you do not believe as we tell you to you will go and burn in hell.. most of it seems to be done for power and greed..
Jesus the man on the other hand is an extremely unique person, to me worth following.. Allan On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Schiller was less disturbed - A form is beautiful, one might say, if > it demands no explanation, or if it explains itself without a > concept. But you won't find me sailing with a thousand ships on the > basis of a face. > > On Aug 12, 10:19 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > if some one can think they can "bottle" the hold Jesus has ... All > ican > > say is good luck to them. > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:38 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "A survey of all the evidence forces us to conclude that Hitler > > > believes himself destined to become an Immortal Hitler, chosen by God > > > to be the New Deliverer of Germany and the Founder of a new social > > > order for the world. He firmly believes this and is certain that in > > > spite of all the trials and tribulations through which he must pass he > > > will finally attain that goal. The one condition is that he follow the > > > dictates of the inner voice that have guided and protected him in the > > > past." (net somewhere) > > > > > Others think he was just a misguided Austrian Catholic. > > > > > The 'extra' senses I allude to are of the material world, such as > > > dolphins being able to sense the electric fields of life. There's a > > > prawn that sees in 16 colours. And finally an England cricket team > > > dominating the world. As you may remember Orn, my own theory of the > > > origins of WW2 concerns the English refusal to send professional > > > cricketers to Germany so they could learn to join in. This is as > > > connected to reality as Riedel. > > > > > "Maximilian Riedel's "trinity" seems to have attracted Hitler's > > > particular attention. A dense penciled line parallels the following > > > passage: "The problem with being objective is that we use objective > > > criteria as the basis for human understanding in general, which means > > > that the objective criteria, that is, the rational criteria, end up > > > serving as the basis for all human understanding, perception and > > > decision-making." By using the five traditional senses to achieve this > > > "objectivity," Riedel declared, human beings exclude the possibility > > > of perceiving‹through the additional seven senses he identified‹the > > > deeper forces of the world, and are thus unable to achieve that unity > > > of body, mind, and soul. "The human mind never decides things on its > > > own, it is the result of a discourse between the body and the soul," > > > he claimed." (Riedel presented 210 pages of this swill to Hitler - he > > > was a student). > > > > > If you read Fichte you can get the sense that he is looking for the > > > actual power Jesus holds over his followers in the millennial sense - > > > like something you can bottle. I rather believe people are easily > > > tranced by drivel and adept at lying about what they really witness > > > and believe in. Five senses easily increases with very little > > > thinking - we sense temperature, time elapse, motion ... so five is > > > for dummies. Wiki will have the material. Many biologists think > > > there is a material and informational world. Riedel was a standard > > > religious con man. I'd rather ask my dog - come to think of it his > > > name is Max. > > > > > On Aug 11, 11:42 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hahaha, I just googled for the truth, my guess was not too bad. > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:35 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Coming from you, my guess is Göbbels. > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:45 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Neil (Archy) has mentioned there being more than 5 senses here > often > > > > >> (as have I). One wonders as to the origin of such notions. Could > it be > > > > >> Riedel? Further, a tripartite unity scrubbed of today’s > traditional > > > > >> Christian trappings has been echoed over the recent decades quite > > > > >> loudly. “Mind, Body and Soul” Again, one must wonder as to the > > > > >> origins. Many would place such a genesis at the feet of Riedel > too. > > > > > > >> So, within this context, I present a quiz. Who said the following? > > > > > > >> "Mind and soul ultimately return to the collective being of the > > > > >> world," … "If there is a God, then he gives us not only life but > also > > > > >> consciousness and awareness. If I live my life according to my > God- > > > > >> given insights, then I cannot go wrong, and even if I do, I know I > > > > >> have acted in good faith." > > > > > > >> The answer may surprise you. > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
