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On Aug 14, 2011 5:57 PM, "Allan H" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Orn to let you know it is me the pest Allan.. Lol
> I bought a new computer a ASUS Transformer so far it is great now if
> I can learn to use it,, but I am unable to use more than one gmail
> address still acn do it but itis a real pain in th but so I am putting
> every thing together under tis email address,,
> Allan
>
> On Aug 12, 4:16 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't think you want to bottle fear and terror..   a lot
>> of Christianity is filled with threats so is Islam ..   if you do not
>> believe as we tell you to you will go and burn in hell..  most of it
seems
>> to be done for power and greed..
>>
>> Jesus the man on the other hand is an extremely unique person, to me
worth
>> following..
>> Allan
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>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Schiller was less disturbed - A form is beautiful, one might say, if
>> > it demands no explanation, or if it explains itself without a
>> > concept.  But you won't find me sailing with a thousand ships on the
>> > basis of a face.
>>
>> > On Aug 12, 10:19 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > if some one can think they can "bottle" the hold Jesus has   ...  All
>> > ican
>> > > say is good luck to them.
>> > > Allan
>>
>> > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:38 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > "A survey of all the evidence forces us to conclude that Hitler
>> > > > believes himself destined to become an Immortal Hitler, chosen by
God
>> > > > to be the New Deliverer of Germany and the Founder of a new social
>> > > > order for the world. He firmly believes this and is certain that in
>> > > > spite of all the trials and tribulations through which he must pass
he
>> > > > will finally attain that goal. The one condition is that he follow
the
>> > > > dictates of the inner voice that have guided and protected him in
the
>> > > > past." (net somewhere)
>>
>> > > > Others think he was just a misguided Austrian Catholic.
>>
>> > > > The 'extra' senses I allude to are of the material world, such as
>> > > > dolphins being able to sense the electric fields of life.  There's
a
>> > > > prawn that sees in 16 colours.  And finally an England cricket team
>> > > > dominating the world.  As you may remember Orn, my own theory of
the
>> > > > origins of WW2 concerns the English refusal to send professional
>> > > > cricketers to Germany so they could learn to join in.  This is as
>> > > > connected to reality as Riedel.
>>
>> > > > "Maximilian Riedel's "trinity" seems to have attracted Hitler's
>> > > > particular attention. A dense penciled line parallels the following
>> > > > passage: "The problem with being objective is that we use objective
>> > > > criteria as the basis for human understanding in general, which
means
>> > > > that the objective criteria, that is, the rational criteria, end up
>> > > > serving as the basis for all human understanding, perception and
>> > > > decision-making." By using the five traditional senses to achieve
this
>> > > > "objectivity," Riedel declared, human beings exclude the
possibility
>> > > > of perceiving‹through the additional seven senses he identified‹the
>> > > > deeper forces of the world, and are thus unable to achieve that
unity
>> > > > of body, mind, and soul. "The human mind never decides things on
its
>> > > > own, it is the result of a discourse between the body and the
soul,"
>> > > > he claimed." (Riedel presented 210 pages of this swill to Hitler -
he
>> > > > was a student).
>>
>> > > > If you read Fichte you can get the sense that he is looking for the
>> > > > actual power Jesus holds over his followers in the millennial sense
-
>> > > > like something you can bottle.  I rather believe people are easily
>> > > > tranced by drivel and adept at lying about what they really witness
>> > > > and believe in.  Five senses easily increases with very little
>> > > > thinking - we sense temperature, time elapse, motion ... so five is
>> > > > for dummies.  Wiki will have the material.  Many biologists think
>> > > > there is a material and informational world.  Riedel was a standard
>> > > > religious con man.  I'd rather ask my dog - come to think of it his
>> > > > name is Max.
>>
>> > > > On Aug 11, 11:42 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > Hahaha, I just googled for the truth, my guess was not too bad.
>>
>> > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:35 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > Coming from you, my guess is Göbbels.
>>
>> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:45 PM, ornamentalmind <
>> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > >> Neil (Archy) has mentioned there being more than 5 senses here
>> > often
>> > > > > >> (as have I). One wonders as to the origin of such notions.
Could
>> > it be
>> > > > > >> Riedel? Further, a tripartite unity scrubbed of today’s
>> > traditional
>> > > > > >> Christian trappings has been echoed over the recent decades
quite
>> > > > > >> loudly. “Mind, Body and Soul” Again, one must wonder as to the
>> > > > > >> origins. Many would place such a genesis at the feet of Riedel
>> > too.
>>
>> > > > > >> So, within this context, I present a quiz. Who said the
following?
>>
>> > > > > >> "Mind and soul ultimately return to the collective being of
the
>> > > > > >> world," … "If there is a God, then he gives us not only life
but
>> > also
>> > > > > >> consciousness and awareness. If I live my life according to my
>> > God-
>> > > > > >> given insights, then I cannot go wrong, and even if I do, I
know I
>> > > > > >> have acted in good faith."
>>
>> > > > > >> The answer may surprise you.
>>
>> > > --
>> > >  (
>> > >   )
>> > > I_D Allan
>>
>> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
>> > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
>>
>> --
>>  (
>>   )
>> I_D Allan
>>
>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

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