Orn to let you know it is me the pest Allan..  Lol
I bought a new computer  a ASUS Transformer  so far it is great now if
I can learn to use it,, but I am  unable to use more than one gmail
address still acn do it but itis a real pain in th but so I am putting
every thing together under tis email address,,
Allan

On Aug 12, 4:16 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't think you want to bottle fear and terror..   a lot
> of Christianity is filled with threats so is Islam ..   if you do not
> believe as we tell you to you will go and burn in hell..  most of it seems
> to be done for power and greed..
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> Jesus the man on the other hand is an extremely unique person, to me worth
> following..
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> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Schiller was less disturbed - A form is beautiful, one might say, if
> > it demands no explanation, or if it explains itself without a
> > concept.  But you won't find me sailing with a thousand ships on the
> > basis of a face.
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> > On Aug 12, 10:19 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > if some one can think they can "bottle" the hold Jesus has   ...  All
> > ican
> > > say is good luck to them.
> > > Allan
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> > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:38 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > "A survey of all the evidence forces us to conclude that Hitler
> > > > believes himself destined to become an Immortal Hitler, chosen by God
> > > > to be the New Deliverer of Germany and the Founder of a new social
> > > > order for the world. He firmly believes this and is certain that in
> > > > spite of all the trials and tribulations through which he must pass he
> > > > will finally attain that goal. The one condition is that he follow the
> > > > dictates of the inner voice that have guided and protected him in the
> > > > past." (net somewhere)
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> > > > Others think he was just a misguided Austrian Catholic.
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> > > > The 'extra' senses I allude to are of the material world, such as
> > > > dolphins being able to sense the electric fields of life.  There's a
> > > > prawn that sees in 16 colours.  And finally an England cricket team
> > > > dominating the world.  As you may remember Orn, my own theory of the
> > > > origins of WW2 concerns the English refusal to send professional
> > > > cricketers to Germany so they could learn to join in.  This is as
> > > > connected to reality as Riedel.
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> > > > "Maximilian Riedel's "trinity" seems to have attracted Hitler's
> > > > particular attention. A dense penciled line parallels the following
> > > > passage: "The problem with being objective is that we use objective
> > > > criteria as the basis for human understanding in general, which means
> > > > that the objective criteria, that is, the rational criteria, end up
> > > > serving as the basis for all human understanding, perception and
> > > > decision-making." By using the five traditional senses to achieve this
> > > > "objectivity," Riedel declared, human beings exclude the possibility
> > > > of perceiving‹through the additional seven senses he identified‹the
> > > > deeper forces of the world, and are thus unable to achieve that unity
> > > > of body, mind, and soul. "The human mind never decides things on its
> > > > own, it is the result of a discourse between the body and the soul,"
> > > > he claimed." (Riedel presented 210 pages of this swill to Hitler - he
> > > > was a student).
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> > > > If you read Fichte you can get the sense that he is looking for the
> > > > actual power Jesus holds over his followers in the millennial sense -
> > > > like something you can bottle.  I rather believe people are easily
> > > > tranced by drivel and adept at lying about what they really witness
> > > > and believe in.  Five senses easily increases with very little
> > > > thinking - we sense temperature, time elapse, motion ... so five is
> > > > for dummies.  Wiki will have the material.  Many biologists think
> > > > there is a material and informational world.  Riedel was a standard
> > > > religious con man.  I'd rather ask my dog - come to think of it his
> > > > name is Max.
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> > > > On Aug 11, 11:42 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hahaha, I just googled for the truth, my guess was not too bad.
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> > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:35 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Coming from you, my guess is Göbbels.
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> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:45 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > >> Neil (Archy) has mentioned there being more than 5 senses here
> > often
> > > > > >> (as have I). One wonders as to the origin of such notions. Could
> > it be
> > > > > >> Riedel? Further, a tripartite unity scrubbed of today’s
> > traditional
> > > > > >> Christian trappings has been echoed over the recent decades quite
> > > > > >> loudly. “Mind, Body and Soul” Again, one must wonder as to the
> > > > > >> origins. Many would place such a genesis at the feet of Riedel
> > too.
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> > > > > >> So, within this context, I present a quiz. Who said the following?
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> > > > > >> "Mind and soul ultimately return to the collective being of the
> > > > > >> world," … "If there is a God, then he gives us not only life but
> > also
> > > > > >> consciousness and awareness. If I live my life according to my
> > God-
> > > > > >> given insights, then I cannot go wrong, and even if I do, I know I
> > > > > >> have acted in good faith."
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> > > > > >> The answer may surprise you.
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> > > --
> > >  (
> > >   )
> > > I_D Allan
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> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
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> --
>  (
>   )
> I_D Allan
>
> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

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