The point is , I think , that we act with a calm demeanor and not with a strong emotion of anger. We cannot be bereft of emotion but instead of feeling anger where anger is normal we should feel an emotion of calmness when acting against miscreants.
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:59 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > Regardless of your view of psychological states, are you seriously > suggesting that humans have states when they feel no emotions at all? > I agree that often we can not be driven by our feelings; however, to > imagine no hormones roaming our bloodstream and no feelings at all > seems to be a severe situation. > > All research is welcomed. > > On Aug 16, 10:15 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yes, wrong, Orn. As Lee suggests, the moral should best be served without >> emotions attached. That's the evaluation stage. "The truth of us having >> omnipresent emotions" in my view is a narcissistic self-aggrandizement. >> >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:31 PM, ornamentalmind >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> > "...I maintian that morality is best sreved without emotions attached, >> > can >> > you show my why I am wrong? " - Lee >> >> > Wrong?...since we all have emotions (and I would posit that we have >> > emotions all of the time too), any determination of right/wrong would >> > be made including emotions. However, assuming the truth of us having >> > omnipresent emotions, morality would/could not exist without them. >> >> > On Aug 16, 4:09 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Paradox, yes agreat frind of mine tells me the same sorta thing, that >> > > morality without emotion is somehow lacking. It is partly due to his >> > > words and my respect for him that I have started this thread. >> >> > > However as Rigsy points out to evict a looter from his council home >> > > for his looting does not adress any problems, nor does it serve as >> > > adiquate punishment, and would I think only make things worse. >> >> > > This course of actions is a fine example of thinking/talking about >> > > morality whilst angry, and is to my mind no good at all. >> >> > > I maintian that morality is best sreved without emotions attached, can >> > > you show my why I am wrong? >> >> > > On Aug 14, 5:31 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > Deep question, Lee; not an easy one. One who suffers injury must have >> > > > the right of redress, be that restitution or retribution, or else we >> > > > live in Hobbes's state of nature. The question of balance and >> > > > proportionality is the proper remit of the law courts and great minds. >> > > > Where the injury in question falls outside the purview of the >> > > > collective good or the legal framework to that end, morality and >> > > > values must act to constrain the individual in respect of balance and >> > > > proportionality; that is why it's so very vital that we understand >> > > > what we do when we tinker with the foundations and structures of a >> > > > society's moral compass. >> >> > > > Personally, i've always felt that emotions are the fuel for the >> > > > directed mind. >> >> > > > On Aug 12, 1:28 pm, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > So as we should all know we have had quite a week of it here in the >> > > > > UK. Facebook and many other web places have been inundated with all >> > > > > sorts of sillyness. >> >> > > > > Calls to bring back national service, calls to evict those found >> > > > > guilty of the rioting and looting, calls to stop their benifits. I >> > > > > have witnessed some of my good good friends spew out all mannor of >> > > > > sillyness in their anger. >> >> > > > > I have procliamed in the past that all questions of morality are >> > > > > better served sans emotions and I see much this week that has only >> > > > > firmed this view. >> >> > > > > In order to discover though the validity of this thought tell me do >> > > > > you agree, or not and why? People of ME sway my opinion with your >> > > > > wise words. >> >> > > > > What good can come of deciding upon a course of action whilst holding >> > > > > onto your anger? >> >> > > > > I ask of course as a self confessed recovered angry man.- Hide quoted >> > text - >> >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
