Maybe open-mindedness is not relativism, Lee. Are morals and ethics
universally recognized and accepted? Are they fixed or subject to
change or tweeking? :-) The pitfall may be when excuses and denial try
to rationalize bad deeds and conduct. Plus- our conscience has been
formed by our family, religion and culture- even wrong thinking,
included. And what about our relations with the "other" and "others"-
where is our responsibilty/duty? Anyway, it's a huge and lively
subject, isn't it?

I looked up the Sikh religion this weekend and was impressed!
(Wikipedia) I started thinking about Kip- a character in "The English
Patient" (book and movie).

On Aug 22, 10:36 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cheers for this Rigsy.
>
> An iterresting piece, sorta similar to my own stance on moral
> relitivsim.  I cn see where he is coming from alas I can not fully
> agree.
>
> Morality according to Lee is merely the individual's understanding of
> right or wrong actions.
>
> Accordingly then if person A says action A is immorral then to them it
> is, if person B declares action A as moral then certianly to their POV
> it is so, and if person C declars action A berift of moralyity at all,
> I.E. Amorral then it is so according to them.
>
> In short if a person says, this is good, bad or neither then that is
> their moraly system in play.
>
> Joel may claim that his actions are no lacking in morality but I do
> not belivethis is the case.
>
> On Aug 22, 3:50 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> > wow.... thank you for posting this Rigs... something to qusetion my own weak
> > uninformed stands with... that line of Socrates"Do Gods love something
> > because it is holy or is it holy because Gods love it".... a friend said
> > it.. i mean it came up in a discussion and i didnt know it was socrates;-)
> > ... but anyways.... about what Joel says... well actually no i cant see
> > ethics without morality... so i am not too sure... need to give it more
> > thought in the shower....
>
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:29 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > By Joel Marks- plus reader comments
>
> > >http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/confessions-of-an-ex-...
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