i hear you on the point of mental wellness... imean now what is normal and sane huh... and what is insane.. how do you get the standard.. if we look at our casual language even ,... when someone does something unpredictable and suppose very unimaginable.. not necessarily bad.... we say its crazy ... freakish... insane.. we say that dude or girl is an eccentric person... well then... what is not crazy... acting predictably?... now who does that huh... maybe then the sanest persons on the planet will be also the most boring what!..... now...no control over mind... thats another thing thats wary... when you say... suppose someone apppeals not guilty for killing someone... they were not in possesion of their mind... insanity plea... i guess the courts dont punish em cos the punishment wont be of use... they dont appreciate the deed... so no point punishing?.... but is it only medical issues that make a person not in control of his mind.... ? act.. i am not able to put the questiion quite appropriately... but if you get a jist of what i mean........
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm not so sure about that, surely it is the other way around? > > Humanity shares some things with God, surely? > > The way the human mind works is fasinating to me. That morality is > wholey subjective I have no doubt now, and I still claim that there > exist no truely amorral human being. > > Lots of things seem to move in circles to me, fashion, philosophey, > why not indeed understanding of alt sexuality. My own thoughts on > animals nad how we treat them have seemd to change dramaticly over the > years. > > Once a proud supporter of PETA, my stance has almost done a complete > backflip. I understand the beinfits to homo sapian of certian animal > testing and can now only see us at the top of the food chain, using > other beasts in this way does not somehow seem unatural anymore to > me. I would love to see other higher sentiance animals granted > certian rights, and I would love to see the treatment of our food > stock get better the globe over. > > Mental illness is a particular bugbear of mine and has been so for > many years now. Most of my thoughts on this subject run towards > descovering just what is considered mental wellness. > > A great freind of mine told me some years ago that everybody at some > time suffers from mental health issues, I am now inclined to believe > him. Consider though, it is considered normal for a child to end up > in hospital with a broken bone of some sorts during the course of > their growth into adult hood. So the possiblity of broken bones is > considered normal, yet a person who may be turned not neuro typical is > right away labeled not normal. Yeah I don't get that. > > As to how notions get conreateasied, I guess that is down to upbrining > and socialisation. > > On Aug 23, 5:43 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > yes brings back the idea i encountered somewhere... God is in our > > image... the image of man.... and so is evil that a man may > > commit..... as for the other thing... about the analogy.... there > > mught not be an explicit code about legal illegal in that primal > > society on that island... but ... they may may have an implicit > > understanding of what is legal and illegal... can any society.. if it > > be a society function without an understanding of what is allowed not > > allowed.... maybe THEIR environment plays a large part in shaping > > it... yes i think the NEXT step is actually realising that morals can > > be relative...society dependent... an individuals assesment can be > > formed according to the societies larger frame... even if it be in > > opposition to it... when something is strssed so much the alternative > > seems only too clear to some.... my interest is as Joel even touched > > upon... How alt sexuality is coming to be understood... i only dont > > understand what lead to its suppression and then re emergence .... > > because it has been there in ancient texts too.... likewise our > > feelings for rights of animals... oanother one of interest is > > Insanity... or mental 'illness'... i think there are many preconcieved > > notions about it.. and i dont know how they became concretised.... > > dont know where to start reading on it.... > > > > On Aug 23, 6:16 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Funny about what we project upon God, isn't it? :-) One is behavior > > > and one is belief! Do they match up? > > > > > On Aug 22, 9:50 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > wow.... thank you for posting this Rigs... something to qusetion my > own weak > > > > uninformed stands with... that line of Socrates"Do Gods love > something > > > > because it is holy or is it holy because Gods love it".... a friend > said > > > > it.. i mean it came up in a discussion and i didnt know it was > socrates;-) > > > > ... but anyways.... about what Joel says... well actually no i cant > see > > > > ethics without morality... so i am not too sure... need to give it > more > > > > thought in the shower.... > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:29 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > By Joel Marks- plus reader comments > > > > > > > > http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/confessions-of-an-ex-... > > > > > > -- > > > > EverComing- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- EverComing
