Though motives can work themselves into a snarl- like yarn or string- and one often needs time (maturity and education) to follow the path backwards. (The Labyrinth myth comes to mind.)
On Oct 14, 1:36 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Man is bound by God through genetics , environment etc. , but all of > it so hidden that to an individual he is absolutely free , and free he > is as he is the agent , it is he who decides and acts and as such the > bonds beings so subtle as to be unconscious , he is consciously doing > everything freely.If we can be aware of our real motives we can > control our actions to some degree and it is in that way that > knowledge of our hidden motives can help us. > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > I like the theme RP - but what of being 'bound' by genetics/evolution/ > > environment - which gives some clues on how to escape through > > knowledge? > > > On Oct 13, 4:30 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It is God who binds you and not you yourself , and so you are > >> accountable to yourself and society , but not to God. In this world > >> you are doing everything freely , but in God's presence you are just a > >> puppet. If I am bound to err , it doesn't absolve me of the action as > >> it has been done by me , and if you hurt me , again you are > >> accountable for it as it is done by you. It is only in God's presence > >> that you are innocent as you are a puppet in his hand , but in man's > >> world you are accountable and responsible for every action unless > >> society frees you of that responsibility on the grounds of insanity on > >> your part. You are always the agent and as such always responsible for > >> your every action and inaction. > > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > When everything is predetermined... and if we all accept that as > >> > fact... accountability is without meaning ! > > >> > Accountability has a meaning when I have a choice in the matter, and > >> > if I am aware of that personal freedom. > > >> > On Oct 13, 7:46 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> When everything is predetermined , the obvious truth that it is man > >> >> who is acting , makes man accountable to man and society and not to > >> >> God. > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > But I couldn't see the rational thread between the "God alone..." > >> >> > premise and its "Man alone..." derivative ! > > >> >> > On Oct 13, 7:20 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> I rather like the idea RP, of the corollary. > > >> >> >> On Oct 13, 3:02 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> >> > AS everything good and evil is done by God's dictates and > >> >> >> > everything > >> >> >> > that a man endures is from God's pleasure , the corollary follows > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > whatever a man does , he is free to do and accountable to man and > >> >> >> > society.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
