Actually I think knowledge starts off as belief.. it seems to me that some belief can be equal that becomes a problem as to which types of belief can be equal. Allan
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > I do see why "you" should considering the Knowledge vs Belief as a > teaser. It is valid question and has a defined answer. > > Knowledge is preferable than Belief... because - > > 1) It is found on known FACTS, usually many more than those specific > to a central matter < way to Larissa >, triggering familiarity with > surrounding terrain too ! So, if there was a cloudburst or a landslide > on the way of belief, knowledge will perhaps offer an alternate way or > the nearest shelter. > > 2) It comes in a package including the knowledge of secondary or > adjunct facts, paths and PROCESSES, tertiary and sub - processes... > which makes our awareness of any matter, thing, being, person, event > or phenomena more complete, detailed and certain. > > 3) It always leads to MORE KNOWLEDGE... more accurate, more extensive, > things new, more deep... > > So, why is it considered a teaser... to those of us ? > > On Nov 3, 1:38 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > The question why knowledge is distinctively valuable has an important > > historical precedent in Plato's Meno in which Socrates raises the > > question of why knowledge is more valuable than mere true belief. > > Initially, we might appeal to the fact that knowledge appears to be of > > more practical use than true belief in order to mark this difference > > in value, but, as Socrates notes, this claim is far from obvious on > > closer inspection. After all, a true belief about the correct way to > > Larissa is surely of just as much practical use as knowledge of the > > way to Larissa—both will get us to our destination. Given that we > > clearly do value knowledge more than mere true belief, the fact that > > there is no obvious explanation of why this should be so creates a > > problem. We will call the issue of why knowledge is more valuable than > > mere true belief, the Meno problem. > > > > You can get the rest here - > http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/knowledge-value/ > > > > I somehow doubt I will be causing much mouse clicking in posting the > > link! I did some work on knowledge justification and value whilst > > bored out of my tree, recovering from a serious injury. I was > > discovering most of academic study is 'witterpiss for wuckfits' at the > > time. There's a big snag in the Meno problem in that it restricts us > > to argument not much informed by science. We could sit down all day > > trying to define knowledge, which might be nice under the Greek sun > > with some Rakis, local beer and imported coffee. No one has defined > > knowledge - rather as we don't have a precise decimal for pi. There > > are, of course, many definitions. > > > > There are lots of teasers like this in philosophy. My take on this > > is : > > 1.there are some things I believe true and have tested scientifically > > or in mathematical proof - these I trust as knowledge > > 2. there are some things I think true and can't do the above with. > > 3. etc. etc. on what I consider reliable or barking. > > > > we worry too much about this kind of stuff and not enough about the > > issues of the condition of ignorance. > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
