My thought was that when you separate money from articles/products of physical worth and value you are inviting speculation and manipulation. The computer/new technology also "grows"/gobbles money. :-)
On Feb 12, 10:14 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Even the paper is cut out now rigs! > > On Feb 7, 12:39 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Money does grow on trees>paper>printing press. > > > On Feb 7, 3:16 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Economics currently thinks money grows on trees - something we were > > > often told was not the case as children! We still have radio 4 here > > > in GB - a last bastion of good listening. It's hard to discuss humour > > > without forgetting to have a laugh. If you try to use audio tapes > > > teaching under 30s they can't listen - use the same material with > > > irrelevant video content and they at least keep quiet! > > > I like long jokes. One can notice, for instance, that a book called > > > the Human Zoo relied on the notion that apes and monkeys masturbate a > > > lot in zoos but not in the wild, so given human propensity the zoo > > > connection is obvious, given the 'Naked Ape'. Sadly, this relied on > > > rather poor observation in the wild at the time. One can also notice > > > that male sperm count is falling almost everywhere except Finland. > > > Masturbation lowers sperm count. The feminist conclusion is that all > > > men are wankers. > > > > On Feb 7, 7:19 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Very Nice,, wonder where I can get home grown spaghetti? > > > > Allan (".) > > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> war of the world was written in 1898 the radio broadcast was 1938,, > > > > > >> HG Wells wrote it Orson Welles presented it as a radio broadcast it > > > > >> was a > > > > >> one hour radio play.. turned out to be a great spoof. > > > > > >> I understood what you meant,, spoofs are extremely hard to write > > > > >> and I > > > > >> wonder if the art of story telling is not becoming lost in favor of > > > > >> the > > > > >> sound bite... there are many great stories being written today, > > > > > >> As I am writing this I am wondering if we are not losing the art of > > > > >> listening. > > > > >> Allan > > > > > >> Pretty much probably. I believe WOTW(radio broadcast) was a > > > > >> dramatization > > > > > that went awry. Seems some folks took it seriously. Not meant as a > > > > > spoof at > > > > > all just good ol' entertainment. Even had bits at the beginning and > > > > > before > > > > > and after commercials telling listeners that it was a dramatization > > > > > and not > > > > > real. Which just goes to show folks weren't very good listeners back > > > > > in '38 > > > > > either. > > > > > > The mass joke I like the best was some network TV outfit decided it > > > > > would > > > > > be hilarious to have footage of folks cutting down spaghetti from > > > > > "spaghetti trees" in Italy. Where else but GB could this get pulled > > > > > off? > > > > > April Fools joke that fell flat. The folks fooled were NOT amused. > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ugSKW4-QQ > > > > > > dj > > > > > > dj > > > > > >> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:57 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> You rather make my point Allan. I have a feeling the particular > > > > >>> matter was more about Orson Wells' self-publicity than for real. > > > > >>> Radio remains in my life as it did with The Goon Show and various > > > > >>> similar, including the queer innuendo Round the Horn - Beyond Our > > > > >>> Ken > > > > >>> series onto Hitch-hiker. I still love really simple jokes. > > > > >>> Upstairs > > > > >>> Downstairs started as quite a political statement before lapsing to > > > > >>> smaltz rigsy. I've been taping Borgen - a Danish political thingy > > > > >>> - I > > > > >>> suspect because the Danish actresses look so good. > > > > > >>> On Feb 5, 2:08 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> > 70 is the new 50, Allan, in case you hadn't noticed. :-) Some of > > > > >>> > us > > > > >>> > are lucky in health and looks- it's mostly luck. > > > > > >>> > On Feb 5, 3:36 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > They don't? > > > > >>> > > What about HG Wells radio presentation of "The War of the > > > > >>> > > Worlds"? > > > > >>> > > That was nothing but a spoof and from what I understand it > > > > >>> > > effect > > > > >>> many > > > > >>> > > parts of the world including GB. > > > > >>> > > Allan > > > > > >>> > > Oop sorry Neil you were to young to remember that,, I wonder if > > > > >>> Rigsy was > > > > >>> > > listening? > > > > > >>> > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:17 AM, archytas <[email protected]> > > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > My impression is that the spoofs don't get to a lot of > > > > >>> > > > people. I > > > > >>> > > > agree the individuality bit Molly. Humour in sit-com had > > > > >>> > > > lost it's > > > > >>> > > > bite until The Office. > > > > > >>> > > > On Feb 4, 4:24 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > there are types of humor that are cruel. I don't think > > > > >>> > > > > they are > > > > >>> fun > > > > >>> > > > > or funny. I like the absurd, the little twist of view that > > > > >>> > > > > does > > > > >>> not > > > > >>> > > > > demean, but presents the unexpected in a way that catches us > > > > >>> off-guard > > > > >>> > > > > and allows us to witness our individuality (that we often > > > > >>> mistake for > > > > >>> > > > > a worldview) > > > > > >>> > > > > On Feb 4, 9:22 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > I am increasingly concerned by those who seem to expect > > > > >>> > > > > > moral > > > > >>> > > > > > behaviour in drunken revelry! > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Feb 4, 2:02 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > There are also "insecurities" when giving definitions! > > > > >>> Satire is > > > > >>> > > > > > > definitely within the genre of comedy. I was trying to > > > > >>> stress the > > > > >>> > > > > > > merry side of humor- funny, as ancient comedy derived > > > > >>> > > > > > > from > > > > >>> phallus > > > > >>> > > > > > > rites (Dionysus) and related drunken revels. My first > > > > >>> > > > > > > real > > > > >>> term > > > > >>> > > > paper > > > > >>> > > > > > > was on "Lysistrata" (Aristophanes) but I was only 17 so > > > > >>> probably > > > > >>> > > > > > > missed most of the gags to the relief of the nun! :-) > > > > >>> > > > > > > Maybe > > > > >>> it's life > > > > >>> > > > > > > that is cruel at times- we're all in a "nice mess". > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Feb 3, 11:29 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Perhaps only in the way we all have insecurities > > > > >>> > > > > > > > rigsy - I > > > > >>> find I > > > > >>> > > > want > > > > >>> > > > > > > > to work as though there is some purpose but can > > > > >>> > > > > > > > broadly > > > > >>> cope with > > > > >>> > > > the > > > > >>> > > > > > > > parochialism of it all with something of a laugh at > > > > >>> > > > > > > > 'mice > > > > >>> and men'. > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Part of the trick is to do with recognising statements > > > > >>> like 'the > > > > >>> > > > > > > > freedom of the individual' are structured under wider > > > > >>> practice like > > > > >>> > > > > > > > secular democracy and playing the hand you get. > > > > >>> > > > > > > > I spent some time years ago doing evaluation research > > > > >>> (usually into > > > > >>> > > > > > > > management development). It's generally useless > > > > >>> > > > > > > > stuff any > > > > >>> > > > scientist > > > > >>> > > > > > > > would junk pretty quickly - whatever one focuses on > > > > >>> > > > > > > > soon > > > > >>> loses its > > > > >>> > > > > > > > meaning in wider society and tends to have been > > > > >>> > > > > > > > defined > > > > >>> itself in > > > > >>> > > > our > > > > >>> > > > > > > > habits and Idols. If education works at all it has > > > > >>> > > > > > > > to be > > > > >>> defined > > > > >>> > > > in > > > > >>> > > > > > > > terms of what we are, and general society and its > > > > >>> > > > > > > > junk are > > > > >>> very > > > > >>> > > > > > > > depressing. We have clearly not produced a widely > > > > >>> rational Demos! > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Humour is a bit of a way in to some of this, yet is > > > > >>> > > > > > > > also a > > > > >>> means to > > > > >>> > > > > > > > ignore it and reinforce xenophobia. > > > > >>> > > > > > > > There should be insecurity in thinking - for many of > > > > >>> > > > > > > > the > > > > >>> great > > > > >>> > > > social > > > > >>> > > > > > > > ideas have been utterly flawed. The question is less > > > > >>> > > > > > > > to > > > > >>> do with > > > > >>> > > > > > > > incredulity towards the grand-narratives (the current > > > > >>> > > > > > > > worst > > > > >>> > > > obviously > > > > >>> > > > > > > > being unbridled wealth creation) and more with > > > > >>> > > > > > > > recognising > > > > >>> what we > > > > >>> > > > > > > > have become and how this needs to change without > > > > >>> > > > > > > > promises > > > > >>> of > > > > >>> > > > > > > > salvation. I find this hard enough to bear to need a > > > > >>> > > > > > > > few > > > > >>> 'larfs'! > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 12:08 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Out of the foggy memory- yes, I think Aristotle's > > > > >>> treatment of > > > > >>> > > > comedy > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > was lost...might have burned in the fire at the > > > > >>> Alexandrian > > > > >>> > > > library > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > (?)- heaven only knows what was lost in that sad > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > event- > > > > >>> the cure > > > > >>> > > > for > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > the common cold?//The Papacy set a bad example but > > > > >>> doesn't > > > > >>> > > > democracy/ > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > free enterprise do the same?// You don't seem > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > insecure > > > > >>> to me. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 7:49 am, archytas <[email protected]> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > "Four Lions" is a brilliant piece mocking Islamic > > > > >>> terrorism > > > > >>> > > > from all > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > sides. I rather like teasing humour and farce. I > > > > >>> might > > > > >>> > > > almost be > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > your mocking friend - I'm insecure enough at > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > times! > > > > >>> Umbero > > > > >>> > > > Eco (Name > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > of the Rose) had the very existence of an > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Aristotle > > > > >>> text on > > > > >>> > > > humour as > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > a threat to the Church. Our current religion is > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > in > > > > >>> need to > > > > >>> > > > mockery. > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > A system that encourages a vastly wealthy class > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > hardly > > > > >>> sounds > > > > >>> > > > like a > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
