Rigsy all believes can actually be stretched to paganism...  depends on how
you examine them.
Allan

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:35 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Our ethical systems evolved from paganism. Maybe "evolved" is a
> stretch.
>
> On Feb 15, 4:59 pm, Eman Abdulla <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Maybe not to some,but one could argue that finding God is the ultimate
> > moral act because one gives recognition and gratitude to the One who
> > provided life, opportunity to experience the world and really
> > everything else. I realize that people believe in God for so many
> > reasons, but ultimately one has to think it is the truth in order to
> > embrace it.
> >
> > On 2/15/12, gwilliamsny11 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I appreciate Eman's perspective re the experience of God leading to
> wanting
> > > to make the world a better place. However
> >
> > > I am of the opinion that connection with "God" is not necessary to
> live an
> > > ethical life. For me whether there is a God in the sense of
> >
> > > a supreme Goodness, Truth, originator of divine wisdom, all powerful
> etc.
> > > isn't all that important. The fact that there is continuing
> >
> > >  suffering, apparent injustices on a world wide scale, fundamental
> > > unfairness, random good and or bad luck - limited control over one's
> >
> > >  destiny and a multitude of additional realistic limitations plus the
> fact
> > > of human creativity means to me that each of us has a core choice
> >
> > > to live an artistic ethical life in promoting that which is
> constructive, or
> > > cave into cynicism and a lazy what the hell attitude of everything is
> >
> > > equal so in the end nothing really matters very much.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Eman Abdulla <[email protected]>
> > > To: minds-eye <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:54 am
> > > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Life's Purpose
> >
> > > There is room for variation and idiosyncrasies as to the meaning of
> > > life for each of us, each within his/her angle of the world and inner
> > > dynamics. I do believe, however, that a general view of the purpose of
> > > life can be twofold: one aesthetic, and one ethical. Thoughtfully
> > > savoring life with all it has to offer to the best of our abilities
> > > and marveling in the magnificence and uniqueness of our existence can
> > > be an end in itself. Ethically, we need to try to make the world
> > > better with than without us, each within their means. To connect both
> > > ethics and aesthetics, human beings are endowed with such incessant
> > > thirst for knowledge and pursuit of truths of their existence and the
> > > world they inhabit. I think that under that bridge between marveling
> > > in the wonders of life, and making a positive imprint on it, lie much
> > > of the sciences, arts , and even religions that human beings have
> > > created, developed and pursued since the dawns of their existence as a
> > > species. Being a Muslim, I will add that to me pesonally, finding God
> > > through His magnificent and complex creation is a purpose that I place
> > > within the first category , which had to do with experiencing life,
> > > but once God is found, it leads up to the second layer, which is
> > > trying to make the world a better place, or at least preserve what is
> > > good about it.
> >
> > > On 2/15/12, gwilliamsny11 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >> After 75 years of experience on this earth plane here is my
> conclusion as
> > >> to
> > >> the meaning of -at least - my life:
> >
> > >> Living from day to day confronts us with a never ending array of
> problems
> > >> ranging from practical issues such as
> >
> > >> what is on the top of my to do list - to philosophical such as why am
> I
> > >> bothering to get up at all - to urgent: I have to do something
> >
> > >> about the pain in my tooth-
> >
> > >> Since I am preoccupied with one or more problems to be solved and it
> gives
> > >> me satisfaction to master each and all of them --it follows
> >
> > >>  that the good life must be concerned with becoming an expert problem
> > >> solver.
> >
> > >> Adopting this ethic reinforces my interests in science (particularly
> > >> scientific method); philosophical theory and discourse (particularly
> >
> > >> Spinoza, the Pragmatists, Socrates, Plato and Aristotle); continuing
> to
> > >> examine the implications of viewing the nature of meaningful
> >
> > >>  coincidences from two alternative perspectives (Jung: mystical
> magical
> > >> transcendent collective unconscious and G Williams
> >
> > >>  naturalistic, personal unconscious, by products of the idiosyncratic
> > >> creative process); depth psychology notably Freudian
> >
> > >>  classical psychoanalysis, British Object Relations theorists
> especially
> > >> Guntrip, Winnicott etc); continued learning about the nature of
> >
> > >> psychodynamics; continuing learning about the nature of the self and
> how
> > >> it
> > >> develops (particularly Spitz, The First Year of Life) - Freiberg:
> >
> > >>  The Magic Years; and adopting the seminal incite that the key to
> > >> emotional
> > >> success is adopting and practicing the discovery that the
> >
> > >>  best attitude to coping with the daily experiences of anxiety,
> > >> depression,
> > >> frustration and stress (tension) is an attitude of bring them on
> >
> > >>  and I will tolerate them the best I can which is essentially the
> > >> concluding
> > >> message of Molly Bloom in Joyce's must read classic:
> >
> > >> Ulysses - that after a life time of experience much of it traumatic
> she
> > >> sums
> > >> up with yes, yes, yes, yes yes yes, again yes. Top that ethic
> >
> > >>  if you can.
> >
> > >> Gibbs A. Williams   gibbsonline. com
> >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: pol.science kid <[email protected]>
> > >> To: minds-eye <[email protected]>
> > >> Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 11:53 pm
> > >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Life's Purpose
> >
> > >> Do you mean ... to always do the right thing?....
> >
> > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:37 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >> I understood that Erica meant it was our cognitive abilities which had
> > >> made
> > >> us aware of better streamlining ourselves.
> >
> > >> I hope this opens up for a more mortal and less moral interpretation,
> yes.
> >
> > >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:08 AM, pol.science kid <
> [email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >> yes... thats such an interesting thing... happiness is a choice....
>  but
> > >> we
> > >> dont quite know about it do we.. nor do mot of us care....
> > >> sometimes i hate happiness ... but thats really not possible is it...
> it
> > >> only exposes the essentially morbid mind...
> >
> > >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Erica Moreau <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >> I thought happiness was the purpose [not that people can recognize
> > >> that happiness is not a feeling, but rather a choice...]
> >
> > >> On Feb 5, 10:55 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> Life has no purpose except evolution ; a person has to search his own
> > >>> purpose in life and live for it. Some live for the attainment of
> wealth
> > >>> and
> > >>> fame , some for the freedom of their country , removal of corruption
> ,
> > >>> some
> > >>> for the attainment of wisdom and some for the happiness of their
> > >>> children.
> > >>> You have to set your own priorities.
> >
> > >> --
> > >> EverComing
> >
> > >> --
> > >> EverComing- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>



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