Where do you feel Rigsy's stick of despair? She sounds very up to date to my ears, criticizing our fast unculture (modern positive keyword: sustainability).
And Neil posted numbered to do lists in order save the world at least twice, as far as I remember. You would have liked them if they had sprung off your mind. ;) On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > Rigs, you seem to be beating here, there and everywhere with your stick of > despair ! Modernism has only changed the form of effects of our failures. > Even Neil's post-modern theory of ethics seems needlessly complex. > > It's us. Period. Ethics requires people who are moral. Which, in my > perspective, translates as men who are evolved ... spiritually evolved ... > with whom, conscientiousness is supreme virtue. > > Contemplation will take us back to that Truth, of which I tried to share not > so long ago. > > Honesty is a corollary of truth. It's us. The society you are beating is us. > Technology and wealth are neutral and inert. If inebriation was in alcohol, > the bottles should dance ! > > > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:21:10 PM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 wrote: >> >> The ethics are already in place, Allan- they are just not practised. >> You could include "greedy" imperialistic nations, berserk cultures, >> grasping political parties. More's "Utopia" stressed humanism which is >> under stress due to science and technology today- the new darling. >> >> On Sep 24, 10:00 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Ethics are going to be definitely reinvented getting greeedy individuals >> > and corporations under control. >> > Allan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > A recent example: "Reinventing Ethics" by Howard Gardner >> > >> > >> > > >http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/reinventing-ethics/?s... >> > >> > > On Sep 24, 7:50 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > The government decides how to spend/mis-spend the taxes and fees >> > > > they >> > > > raise because we thought it wise at one time to give them that >> > > > power. >> > > > Banks have altered their function and don't forget credit cards as >> > > > unsecured loans. Somehow, my mind drifted to Plato's "Republic"- but >> > > > there are many examples of attempts to organize society- none of >> > > > which, imho, has done a very good job. There is an impossible lack >> > > > of >> > > > control particularly since the advent of Liberalism. >> > >> > > > On Sep 22, 6:29 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > I think the germ of the idea is in this Don. All money >> > > > > essentially >> > > > > comes from government - what we get from banks is debt. Street-up >> > > > > decision-making isn't all of it as rigsy points out. >> > >> > > > > On 22 Sep, 12:26, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > You still have to deal with priorities on that list, however. >> > > Stadiums >> > > > > > might trump infrastructure. >> > >> > > > > > On Sep 22, 5:22 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > > >http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044416580457800851... >> > >> > > > > > > This is what I'm talking about! Decentralization is key. I >> > > > > > > believe >> > > this is >> > > > > > > your busy bees at work Neil. >> > >> > > > > > > "Peer networks don't have to involve digital technology. >> > > > > > > Twenty >> > > years ago, >> > > > > > > the Brazilian city of Porto Alegre pioneered a radical new >> > > technique called >> > > > > > > "participatory budgeting." Each year, the city's 16 regions >> > > conduct general >> > > > > > > assemblies in which neighbors debate priorities for the >> > > > > > > budget: >> > > school >> > > > > > > construction, sewer repair, bridge building. The assemblies >> > > > > > > create >> > > a ranked >> > > > > > > list of projects, and the government disperses funds >> > > > > > > accordingly. >> > > The money >> > > > > > > comes from the state, but the decision of what to fund comes >> > > > > > > from >> > > the >> > > > > > > street." >> > >> > > > > > > dj- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > -- >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > |_D Allan >> > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > I am a Natural Airgunner - >> > >> > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > > --
