There are many home remedies that are tried and true except that who's home these days?- and barbers (now doctors) stepped in to create a profession. Perhaps this is another course we can squeeze into education to combat the endless ads of the drug companies. I view doctors/hospitals/drugs as a last resort.
On Sep 28, 9:31 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > What medical advice, I thought we were talking about folk remedies or a > poor mans medicine. > Allan > On Sep 29, 2012 3:04 AM, "James" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Being a sucker for punishment when my wisdom tooth was ground and picked > > out I smoked and drank a large fountain drink, it only took me a week of > > dry socket to start thinking creatively. I used one of those little brown > > bottle Liquid Skin over-the-counter treatments, it may have contained clove > > oil (that is what I wanted at the time but would've settled for anything), > > put a good gob on a q-tip and smear it in there. The alcohol gave instant > > relief to the inflamed bone and a protective coat, the healing went fine > > from there, not sure how it would do on cavities. This is NOT medical > > advice, YMMV. ;-) > > > On 9/28/2012 10:05 AM, Allan H wrote: > > >> well when I could not afford a dentist in the states it keeped the pain > >> at bay. > >> Allan > > >> On Sep 28, 2012 2:37 PM, "rigsy03" <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> Cloves might help with an ache but not with an extraction- it could > >> cause infection. Best bet is a rinse of warm salt water to spur > >> healing and keep food med. soft for a couple of weeks. Already moved > >> up to ravioli! :-) > > >> On Sep 28, 4:20 am, Allan H <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > Cloves make a great against pain Rigsy. and as your years have > >> taught you > >> > .. this to will pass > >> > Allan > > >> > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:14 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > The basic motive is competition and profit so corners are cut or > >> > > falsified sometimes. Also, it is a game to sharp traders. And I > >> think > >> > > it goes further back than the Middle Ages- how about ancient > >> > > mythologies? The trickster deities were warnings- "buyer beware". > > >> > > Somewhat related; "Money & Medicine" > >> > > >> >http://video.pbs.org/video/**2280765671<http://video.pbs.org/video/2280765671> > > >> > > Had a back molar pulled yesterday. My neighbor took me over, > >> waited > >> > > and drove me home- he is a dear. Advice: if one MUST smoke, use a > >> > > cigarette holder away from the socket; follow advice about cold > >> packs > >> > > and pain meds; keep foods interesting like polenta with butter > >> and > >> > > parmesan, carrot-ginger soup, scrambled eggs, etc., avoiding > >> > > extraction site and keep to a sane diet till healing is complete. > > >> > > On Sep 27, 6:10 pm, archytas <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > > The 'official speak' of my postmodernism is 'Lakatosian > >> paradigm in > >> > > > decadence' - regulations are cheated. It's getting more > >> difficult to > >> > > > cheat in sport these days because of drug-testing, referees > >> and the > >> > > > video replay. Just as his was happening in sport, 'someone' > >> decided > >> > > > to let all the rules go to pot in finance. I had a very > >> lovely friend > >> > > > who cheated at Monopoly - the cheating being part of the fun > >> of the > >> > > > game with no damage done. My feelings are much like rigsy's > >> - I just > >> > > > think ethics require public scrutiny, ideology prevents this > >> and we > >> > > > could do the refereeing better. My guess is the problem is > >> essentially > >> > > > economics and business practices that are medieval and trapped > >> in > >> > > > animal genetics. Simples! > > >> > > > On 26 Sep, 07:44, gabbydott <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> > > > > Where do you feel Rigsy's stick of despair? She sounds very > >> up to date > >> > > > > to my ears, criticizing our fast unculture (modern positive > >> keyword: > >> > > > > sustainability). > > >> > > > > And Neil posted numbered to do lists in order save the > >> world at least > >> > > > > twice, as far as I remember. You would have liked them if > >> they had > >> > > > > sprung off your mind. ;) > > >> > > > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Vam <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>**> wrote: > >> > > > > > Rigs, you seem to be beating here, there and everywhere > >> with your > >> > > stick of > >> > > > > > despair ! Modernism has only changed the form of effects > >> of our > >> > > failures. > >> > > > > > Even Neil's post-modern theory of ethics seems needlessly > >> complex. > > >> > > > > > It's us. Period. Ethics requires people who are moral. > >> Which, in my > >> > > > > > perspective, translates as men who are evolved ... > >> spiritually > >> > > evolved ... > >> > > > > > with whom, conscientiousness is supreme virtue. > > >> > > > > > Contemplation will take us back to that Truth, of which I > >> tried to > >> > > share not > >> > > > > > so long ago. > > >> > > > > > Honesty is a corollary of truth. It's us. The society you > >> are > >> > > beating is us. > >> > > > > > Technology and wealth are neutral and inert. If > >> inebriation was in > >> > > alcohol, > >> > > > > > the bottles should dance ! > > >> > > > > > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:21:10 PM UTC+5:30, > >> rigsy03 wrote: > > >> > > > > >> The ethics are already in place, Allan- they are just > >> not practised. > >> > > > > >> You could include "greedy" imperialistic nations, > >> berserk cultures, > >> > > > > >> grasping political parties. More's "Utopia" stressed > >> humanism which > >> > > is > >> > > > > >> under stress due to science and technology today- the > >> new darling. > > >> > > > > >> On Sep 24, 10:00 am, Allan H <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > Ethics are going to be definitely reinvented getting > >> greeedy > >> > > individuals > >> > > > > >> > and corporations under control. > >> > > > > >> > Allan > > >> > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, rigsy03 > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > A recent example: "Reinventing Ethics" by Howard > >> Gardner > > >> >http://opinionator.blogs.**nytimes.com/2012/09/23/** > >> reinventing-ethics/?s.<http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/reinventing-ethics/?s.> > >> .. > > >> > > > > >> > > On Sep 24, 7:50 am, rigsy03 <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > The government decides how to spend/mis-spend the > >> taxes and > >> > > fees > >> > > > > >> > > > they > >> > > > > >> > > > raise because we thought it wise at one time to > >> give them that > >> > > > > >> > > > power. > >> > > > > >> > > > Banks have altered their function and don't forget > >> credit > >> > > cards as > >> > > > > >> > > > unsecured loans. Somehow, my mind drifted to Plato's > >> > > "Republic"- but > >> > > > > >> > > > there are many examples of attempts to organize > >> society- none > >> > > of > >> > > > > >> > > > which, imho, has done a very good job. There is an > >> impossible > >> > > lack > >> > > > > >> > > > of > >> > > > > >> > > > control particularly since the advent of Liberalism. > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Sep 22, 6:29 pm, archytas <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > I think the germ of the idea is in this Don. > >> All money > >> > > > > >> > > > > essentially > >> > > > > >> > > > > comes from government - what we get from banks > >> is debt. > >> > > Street-up > >> > > > > >> > > > > decision-making isn't all of it as rigsy points > >> out. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On 22 Sep, 12:26, rigsy03 <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > You still have to deal with priorities on that > >> list, > >> > > however. > >> > > > > >> > > Stadiums > >> > > > > >> > > > > > might trump infrastructure. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Sep 22, 5:22 am, Don Johnson > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> >http://professional.wsj.com/**article/** > >> SB1000087239639044416580457800**851.<http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044416580457800851.> > >> .. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > This is what I'm talking about! > >> Decentralization is > >> > > key. I > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > believe > >> > > > > >> > > this is > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > your busy bees at work Neil. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > "Peer networks don't have to involve digital > >> technology. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Twenty > >> > > > > >> > > years ago, > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > the Brazilian city of Porto Alegre pioneered > >> a radical > >> > > new > >> > > > > >> > > technique called > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > "participatory budgeting." Each year, the > >> city's 16 > >> > > regions > >> > > > > >> > > conduct general > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > assemblies in which neighbors debate > >> priorities for the > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > budget: > >> > > > > >> > > school > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > construction, sewer repair, bridge building. > >> The > >> > > assemblies > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > create > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --
