What medical advice, I thought we were talking about folk remedies or a poor mans medicine. Allan On Sep 29, 2012 3:04 AM, "James" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Being a sucker for punishment when my wisdom tooth was ground and picked > out I smoked and drank a large fountain drink, it only took me a week of > dry socket to start thinking creatively. I used one of those little brown > bottle Liquid Skin over-the-counter treatments, it may have contained clove > oil (that is what I wanted at the time but would've settled for anything), > put a good gob on a q-tip and smear it in there. The alcohol gave instant > relief to the inflamed bone and a protective coat, the healing went fine > from there, not sure how it would do on cavities. This is NOT medical > advice, YMMV. ;-) > > On 9/28/2012 10:05 AM, Allan H wrote: > >> well when I could not afford a dentist in the states it keeped the pain >> at bay. >> Allan >> >> On Sep 28, 2012 2:37 PM, "rigsy03" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Cloves might help with an ache but not with an extraction- it could >> cause infection. Best bet is a rinse of warm salt water to spur >> healing and keep food med. soft for a couple of weeks. Already moved >> up to ravioli! :-) >> >> On Sep 28, 4:20 am, Allan H <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > Cloves make a great against pain Rigsy. and as your years have >> taught you >> > .. this to will pass >> > Allan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:14 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > > The basic motive is competition and profit so corners are cut or >> > > falsified sometimes. Also, it is a game to sharp traders. And I >> think >> > > it goes further back than the Middle Ages- how about ancient >> > > mythologies? The trickster deities were warnings- "buyer beware". >> > >> > > Somewhat related; "Money & Medicine" >> > >> >http://video.pbs.org/video/**2280765671<http://video.pbs.org/video/2280765671> >> > >> > > Had a back molar pulled yesterday. My neighbor took me over, >> waited >> > > and drove me home- he is a dear. Advice: if one MUST smoke, use a >> > > cigarette holder away from the socket; follow advice about cold >> packs >> > > and pain meds; keep foods interesting like polenta with butter >> and >> > > parmesan, carrot-ginger soup, scrambled eggs, etc., avoiding >> > > extraction site and keep to a sane diet till healing is complete. >> > >> > > On Sep 27, 6:10 pm, archytas <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > > > The 'official speak' of my postmodernism is 'Lakatosian >> paradigm in >> > > > decadence' - regulations are cheated. It's getting more >> difficult to >> > > > cheat in sport these days because of drug-testing, referees >> and the >> > > > video replay. Just as his was happening in sport, 'someone' >> decided >> > > > to let all the rules go to pot in finance. I had a very >> lovely friend >> > > > who cheated at Monopoly - the cheating being part of the fun >> of the >> > > > game with no damage done. My feelings are much like rigsy's >> - I just >> > > > think ethics require public scrutiny, ideology prevents this >> and we >> > > > could do the refereeing better. My guess is the problem is >> essentially >> > > > economics and business practices that are medieval and trapped >> in >> > > > animal genetics. Simples! >> > >> > > > On 26 Sep, 07:44, gabbydott <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > > > > Where do you feel Rigsy's stick of despair? She sounds very >> up to date >> > > > > to my ears, criticizing our fast unculture (modern positive >> keyword: >> > > > > sustainability). >> > >> > > > > And Neil posted numbered to do lists in order save the >> world at least >> > > > > twice, as far as I remember. You would have liked them if >> they had >> > > > > sprung off your mind. ;) >> > >> > > > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Vam <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>**> wrote: >> > > > > > Rigs, you seem to be beating here, there and everywhere >> with your >> > > stick of >> > > > > > despair ! Modernism has only changed the form of effects >> of our >> > > failures. >> > > > > > Even Neil's post-modern theory of ethics seems needlessly >> complex. >> > >> > > > > > It's us. Period. Ethics requires people who are moral. >> Which, in my >> > > > > > perspective, translates as men who are evolved ... >> spiritually >> > > evolved ... >> > > > > > with whom, conscientiousness is supreme virtue. >> > >> > > > > > Contemplation will take us back to that Truth, of which I >> tried to >> > > share not >> > > > > > so long ago. >> > >> > > > > > Honesty is a corollary of truth. It's us. The society you >> are >> > > beating is us. >> > > > > > Technology and wealth are neutral and inert. If >> inebriation was in >> > > alcohol, >> > > > > > the bottles should dance ! >> > >> > > > > > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:21:10 PM UTC+5:30, >> rigsy03 wrote: >> > >> > > > > >> The ethics are already in place, Allan- they are just >> not practised. >> > > > > >> You could include "greedy" imperialistic nations, >> berserk cultures, >> > > > > >> grasping political parties. More's "Utopia" stressed >> humanism which >> > > is >> > > > > >> under stress due to science and technology today- the >> new darling. >> > >> > > > > >> On Sep 24, 10:00 am, Allan H <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > > > > >> > Ethics are going to be definitely reinvented getting >> greeedy >> > > individuals >> > > > > >> > and corporations under control. >> > > > > >> > Allan >> > >> > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, rigsy03 >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > A recent example: "Reinventing Ethics" by Howard >> Gardner >> > >> > >> >http://opinionator.blogs.**nytimes.com/2012/09/23/** >> reinventing-ethics/?s.<http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/reinventing-ethics/?s.> >> .. >> > >> > > > > >> > > On Sep 24, 7:50 am, rigsy03 <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > The government decides how to spend/mis-spend the >> taxes and >> > > fees >> > > > > >> > > > they >> > > > > >> > > > raise because we thought it wise at one time to >> give them that >> > > > > >> > > > power. >> > > > > >> > > > Banks have altered their function and don't forget >> credit >> > > cards as >> > > > > >> > > > unsecured loans. Somehow, my mind drifted to Plato's >> > > "Republic"- but >> > > > > >> > > > there are many examples of attempts to organize >> society- none >> > > of >> > > > > >> > > > which, imho, has done a very good job. There is an >> impossible >> > > lack >> > > > > >> > > > of >> > > > > >> > > > control particularly since the advent of Liberalism. >> > >> > > > > >> > > > On Sep 22, 6:29 pm, archytas <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > I think the germ of the idea is in this Don. >> All money >> > > > > >> > > > > essentially >> > > > > >> > > > > comes from government - what we get from banks >> is debt. >> > > Street-up >> > > > > >> > > > > decision-making isn't all of it as rigsy points >> out. >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > On 22 Sep, 12:26, rigsy03 <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > You still have to deal with priorities on that >> list, >> > > however. >> > > > > >> > > Stadiums >> > > > > >> > > > > > might trump infrastructure. >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Sep 22, 5:22 am, Don Johnson >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > >> >http://professional.wsj.com/**article/** >> SB1000087239639044416580457800**851.<http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044416580457800851.> >> .. >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > This is what I'm talking about! >> Decentralization is >> > > key. I >> > > > > >> > > > > > > believe >> > > > > >> > > this is >> > > > > >> > > > > > > your busy bees at work Neil. >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > "Peer networks don't have to involve digital >> technology. >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Twenty >> > > > > >> > > years ago, >> > > > > >> > > > > > > the Brazilian city of Porto Alegre pioneered >> a radical >> > > new >> > > > > >> > > technique called >> > > > > >> > > > > > > "participatory budgeting." Each year, the >> city's 16 >> > > regions >> > > > > >> > > conduct general >> > > > > >> > > > > > > assemblies in which neighbors debate >> priorities for the >> > > > > >> > > > > > > budget: >> > > > > >> > > school >> > > > > >> > > > > > > construction, sewer repair, bridge building. >> The >> > > assemblies >> > > > > >> > > > > > > create >> > > > > >> > > a ranked >> > > > > >> > > > > > > list of projects, and the government >> disperses funds >> > > > > >> > > > > > > accordingly. >> > > > > >> > > The money >> > > > > >> > > > > > > comes from the state, but the decision of >> what to fund >> > > comes >> > > > > >> > > > > > > from >> > > > > >> > > the >> > > > > >> > > > > > > street." >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > dj- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > >> > > > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > > > >> > > -- >> > >> > > > > >> > -- >> > > > > >> > ( >> > > > > >> > ) >> > > > > >> > |_D Allan >> > >> > > > > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > > > > >> > I am a Natural Airgunner - >> > >> > > > > >> > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide >> quoted text - >> > >> > > > > >> > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > > > > --- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > -- >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > |_D Allan >> > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > I am a Natural Airgunner - >> > >> > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> > -- > > > > --
