The weird thing is that we are being told all sorts of stuff can't be 'afforded' - yet productivity is up by factors of ten since we did decent things like national health services - we should be able to afford loads more. In the UK we were told the answer was US management, then Japanese - German stuff had too much industrial democracy for our business ethos. Even the IMF has realised austerity is a crock. We're in the grips of something else. Debt is the obvious answer -but we have to address our attitudes towards it. Its owned by robber barons and all link between work and reward has really gone.
On 9 Nov, 21:59, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > I totally agree with you management is based on rot..but from what I > have been reading it is the same problem from eons ago,, unchanged > what does it take to get management that is interested in the > betterment of society .. the ideas sit with in beliefs which puts > part of the burdens on religions ,, then the problems comes how does > one get beliefs to work for the betterment of mankind in this world. > Allan > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:45 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Get your head back on Al - I know about the Japanese war crimes. The > > book I was referring to was written by a Japanese clown. The point is > > that management miracles are based on rot.. > > > On 9 Nov, 19:07, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Neil I had two uncles in ww II One in the European theater the other > >> was in pacific theater and was captured even before the war started in > >> my memory is right he survived 2 death ship and four death marches > >> that is talking five years of imprisonment into account loss of close > >> to 70 kilos.. you need to get your facts straight as to strategies of > >> both wars.. and if Germany was acting like J ,, Berlin would have > >> been Nuclear ashes also.. > > >> Yes the US has serious fiscal problems.. thanks to some > >> irresponsible politicians starting with the Reagan administration .. > >> hopefully they will get something done . and stop sticking one thumb > >> in their mouth and the other in their ass then rotating. > > >> As for what happens iihope for the best but in reality we will see.. > >> Allan > > >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:23 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/us-debt-problems-threaten-t... > > >> > The Germans are considering the USA as a potential Greece. > > >> > I'm remembering attitudes towards Japan in the 1980s. There was a > >> > dreadful book called 'The Japan That Can Say No' which summaries thus: > > >> > + Japan must use its technological superiority as a negotiating > >> > weapon, and it should > >> > even threaten to trade secrets with the Soviet Union as a bargaining > >> > tool against the US and refuse to sell components that go into US > >> > missiles. > >> > + The quality of American goods is low because the level of the > >> > workers is low, while the superior education of Japanese workers is a > >> > big advantage. > >> > + The Japanese character is innately superior to the character of > >> > Americans. > >> > + Americans believe that the Caucasian race is superior since the > >> > modern era is dominated by the western world, and this prejudice will > >> > hurt them in the end. > >> > + Former American colonies are rife with problems, while former > >> > Japanese colonies are thriving. > > >> > + America's dropping of the atomic bomb on Japan and not Germany in > >> > World War II arose from racism because Germans are white people and > >> > Japanese are not. (Though at the time of the German defeat in April > >> > 1945, the atomic bomb was as yet incomplete and untested until July > >> > 16, 1945, so that may have been a factor) > >> > + The trade surplus with the U.S. is caused by the lack of desirable > >> > products made in the U.S. > > >> > I read it on a plane out there on a journey to discover their > >> > shipbuilding secrets. I met a lovely bloke out there who told me the > >> > idea of copying Japanese management secrets filled him with dread. > >> > The only secret was they were rotten, sexist and callous. Japan fell > >> > off its fiscal cliff when I left (1980s). Almost sadly, this wasn't > >> > because of anything I left behind. The 'brilliant' Japanese > >> > management techniques were taught by lazy lecturers for the next 20 > >> > years. > > >> > The coming fiscal cliff in the US isn't like Greece in that USD can be > >> > printed at will. Der Spiegel says this: > > >> > The US has more in common with heavily indebted southern European > >> > countries than it might like to admit. And if the country doesn't > >> > reach agreement on deficit reduction measures soon, the similarities > >> > could become impossible to ignore. The fiscal cliff looms in the near > >> > future, and its not just the US that is under threat. > > >> > The US has finally voted and the dark visions of America's future > >> > broadcast on television screens across the country -- and most > >> > intensively in battleground states -- have come to an end. Supporters > >> > of both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney had developed doomsday scenarios > >> > for what would happen if their candidate's opponent were to win. Four > >> > more years of Obama, the ads warned, would result in pure socialism. A > >> > Romney presidency would see the middle and lower classes brutally > >> > exploited. > > >> > But following Obama's re-election, Americans are now facing a > >> > different, much more real horror scenario: In just a few weeks time, > >> > thousands of children could be denied vaccinations, federally funded > >> > school programs could screech to a halt, adults may be forced to > >> > forego HIV tests and subsidized housing vouchers would dry up. Even > >> > the work of air-traffic controllers, the FBI, border officials and the > >> > military could be drastically curtailed. > > >> > That and more is looming just over the horizon according to the White > >> > House if the country is allowed to plunge off the "fiscal cliff" at > >> > the beginning of next year. Coined by Federal Reserve head Ben > >> > Bernanke, it refers to the vast array of cuts and tax increases which > >> > will automatically go into effect if Republicans and Democrats can't > >> > agree on measures to slash the US budget deficit. > > >> > The answer is to abolish debt instead and start again with new world- > >> > wide agreements on workers' rights that abolishes races to the > >> > bottom. This isn't much in comparison with losing wars and having to > >> > rise from real ashes as Germany and Japan did. > > >> > -- > > >> -- > >> ( > >> ) > >> |_D Allan > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > >> I am a Natural Airgunner - > > >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > > > -- > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
