Matriarchies are what started the problems and from history they tend to love war.. they are not a solution.. Allan
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that matriarchies are back in style- in all races and nations- > and think it will be just as suffocating as the patriarchy. > > On Nov 11, 1:39 am, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote: >> Voting with your wallet could be an effective way to change things and put >> the wealthy exploiters out of business. Buying cheap products is more >> expensive in the long term anyways. Buying food from local markets is also >> healthier. As long as we all play the game, the game will keep playing >> until every business becomes a monopoly and globalization will take over >> our wallets. Once our wallets are gone, we are really screwed and will have >> no other choice than to play robin hood. So much for free markets. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:41:52 AM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >> >> > We lack simple explanation that isn't crass Allan. I have little >> > doubt the rich have stolen the wealth they have and it should be taken >> > from them - but how do we do this without it ending up with big >> > government that doesn't work any better? I think we are tranced by a >> > work ethic that really makes no sense. We need facts on just how much >> > work needs to be done and how we might organise that. Simples! Yet >> > no answer because we don't understand the 'trancing'. >> >> > On 10 Nov, 07:15, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > From what I see is the answer lies in manufacturing. And crazy things >> > like >> > > 50% less sales tax on products that are produced in the country origin, >> > > that includes good thru all industrial products. >> >> > > Better tax collection on all international corporations and stock or >> > money >> > > sent out of the country. >> >> > > In the US all corporation papers say they agree to abide by all the laws >> > > and if they don't they lose all corporate rights and privileges. This >> > > needs to be enforced and you will see major changes in business. You >> > have >> > > to remember tax evasion is against the law. >> > > Allan >> >> > > Air gunner full of hot air ready to release it quickly >> > > On Nov 10, 2012 2:04 AM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > The weird thing is that we are being told all sorts of stuff can't be >> > > > 'afforded' - yet productivity is up by factors of ten since we did >> > > > decent things like national health services - we should be able to >> > > > afford loads more. In the UK we were told the answer was US >> > > > management, then Japanese - German stuff had too much industrial >> > > > democracy for our business ethos. Even the IMF has realised austerity >> > > > is a crock. We're in the grips of something else. Debt is the >> > > > obvious answer -but we have to address our attitudes towards it. Its >> > > > owned by robber barons and all link between work and reward has really >> > > > gone. >> >> > > > On 9 Nov, 21:59, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > I totally agree with you management is based on rot..but from what I >> > > > > have been reading it is the same problem from eons ago,, unchanged >> > > > > what does it take to get management that is interested in the >> > > > > betterment of society .. the ideas sit with in beliefs which puts >> > > > > part of the burdens on religions ,, then the problems comes how does >> > > > > one get beliefs to work for the betterment of mankind in this world. >> > > > > Allan >> >> > > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:45 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > Get your head back on Al - I know about the Japanese war crimes. >> > The >> > > > > > book I was referring to was written by a Japanese clown. The >> > point is >> > > > > > that management miracles are based on rot.. >> >> > > > > > On 9 Nov, 19:07, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> Neil I had two uncles in ww II One in the European theater the >> > other >> > > > > >> was in pacific theater and was captured even before the war >> > started in >> > > > > >> my memory is right he survived 2 death ship and four death >> > marches >> > > > > >> that is talking five years of imprisonment into account loss of >> > close >> > > > > >> to 70 kilos.. you need to get your facts straight as to >> > strategies of >> > > > > >> both wars.. and if Germany was acting like J ,, Berlin would >> > have >> > > > > >> been Nuclear ashes also.. >> >> > > > > >> Yes the US has serious fiscal problems.. thanks to some >> > > > > >> irresponsible politicians starting with the Reagan >> > administration .. >> > > > > >> hopefully they will get something done . and stop sticking one >> > thumb >> > > > > >> in their mouth and the other in their ass then rotating. >> >> > > > > >> As for what happens iihope for the best but in reality we will >> > > > see.. >> > > > > >> Allan >> >> > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:23 PM, archytas <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> > > >http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/us-debt-problems-threaten-t... >> >> > > > > >> > The Germans are considering the USA as a potential Greece. >> >> > > > > >> > I'm remembering attitudes towards Japan in the 1980s. There >> > was a >> > > > > >> > dreadful book called 'The Japan That Can Say No' which >> > summaries >> > > > thus: >> >> > > > > >> > + Japan must use its technological superiority as a negotiating >> > > > > >> > weapon, and it should >> > > > > >> > even threaten to trade secrets with the Soviet Union as a >> > bargaining >> > > > > >> > tool against the US and refuse to sell components that go into >> > US >> > > > > >> > missiles. >> > > > > >> > + The quality of American goods is low because the level of the >> > > > > >> > workers is low, while the superior education of Japanese >> > workers is >> > > > a >> > > > > >> > big advantage. >> > > > > >> > + The Japanese character is innately superior to the character >> > of >> > > > > >> > Americans. >> > > > > >> > + Americans believe that the Caucasian race is superior since >> > the >> > > > > >> > modern era is dominated by the western world, and this >> > prejudice >> > > > will >> > > > > >> > hurt them in the end. >> > > > > >> > + Former American colonies are rife with problems, while former >> > > > > >> > Japanese colonies are thriving. >> >> > > > > >> > + America's dropping of the atomic bomb on Japan and not >> > Germany in >> > > > > >> > World War II arose from racism because Germans are white people >> > and >> > > > > >> > Japanese are not. (Though at the time of the German defeat in >> > April >> > > > > >> > 1945, the atomic bomb was as yet incomplete and untested until >> > July >> > > > > >> > 16, 1945, so that may have been a factor) >> > > > > >> > + The trade surplus with the U.S. is caused by the lack of >> > desirable >> > > > > >> > products made in the U.S. >> >> > > > > >> > I read it on a plane out there on a journey to discover their >> > > > > >> > shipbuilding secrets. I met a lovely bloke out there who told >> > me >> > > > the >> > > > > >> > idea of copying Japanese management secrets filled him with >> > dread. >> > > > > >> > The only secret was they were rotten, sexist and callous. >> > Japan >> > > > fell >> > > > > >> > off its fiscal cliff when I left (1980s). Almost sadly, this >> > wasn't >> > > > > >> > because of anything I left behind. The 'brilliant' Japanese >> > > > > >> > management techniques were taught by lazy lecturers for the >> > next 20 >> > > > > >> > years. >> >> > > > > >> > The coming fiscal cliff in the US isn't like Greece in that USD >> > can >> > > > be >> > > > > >> > printed at will. Der Spiegel says this: >> >> > > > > >> > The US has more in common with heavily indebted southern >> > European >> > > > > >> > countries than it might like to admit. And if the country >> > doesn't >> > > > > >> > reach agreement on deficit reduction measures soon, the >> > similarities >> > > > > >> > could become impossible to ignore. The fiscal cliff looms in >> > the >> > > > near >> > > > > >> > future, and its not just the US that is under threat. >> >> > > > > >> > The US has finally voted and the dark visions of America's >> > future >> > > > > >> > broadcast on television screens across the country -- and most >> > > > > >> > intensively in battleground states -- have come to an end. >> > > > Supporters >> > > > > >> > of both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney had developed doomsday >> > > > scenarios >> > > > > >> > for what would happen if their candidate's opponent were to >> > win. >> > > > Four >> > > > > >> > more years of Obama, the ads warned, would result in pure >> > > > socialism. A >> > > > > >> > Romney presidency would see the middle and lower classes >> > brutally >> > > > > >> > exploited. >> >> > > > > >> > But following Obama's re-election, Americans are now facing a >> > > > > >> > different, much more real horror scenario: In just a few weeks >> > time, >> > > > > >> > thousands of children could be denied vaccinations, federally >> > funded >> > > > > >> > school programs could screech to a halt, adults may be forced >> > to >> > > > > >> > forego HIV tests and subsidized housing vouchers would dry up. >> > Even >> > > > > >> > the work of air-traffic controllers, the FBI, border officials >> > and >> > > > the >> > > > > >> > military could be drastically curtailed. >> >> > > > > >> > That and more is looming just over the horizon according to the >> > > > White >> > > > > >> > House if the country is allowed to plunge off the "fiscal >> > cliff" at >> > > > > >> > the beginning of next year. Coined by Federal Reserve head Ben >> > > > > >> > Bernanke, it refers to the vast array of cuts and tax increases >> > > > which >> > > > > >> > will automatically go into effect if Republicans and Democrats >> > can't >> > > > > >> > agree on measures to slash the US budget deficit. >> >> > > > > >> > The answer is to abolish debt instead and start again with new >> > > > world- >> > > > > >> > wide agreements on workers' rights that abolishes races to the >> > > > > >> > bottom. This isn't much in comparison with losing wars and >> > having >> > > > to >> > > > > >> > rise from real ashes as Germany and Japan did. >> >> > > > > >> > -- >> >> > > > > >> -- >> > > > > >> ( >> > > > > >> ) >> > > > > >> |_D Allan >> >> > > > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> > > > > >> I am a Natural Airgunner - >> >> > > > > >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. >> >> > > > > > -- >> >> > > > > -- >> > > > > ( >> > > > > ) >> >> ... >> >> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. I am a Natural Airgunner - Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
