Okay Neil Actually there is one place this could be pulled off realistically,, and it involves and entire nation, which I personally think is cool,, anything over 5 vertical green houses and it would become an exporting nation for food,, could possible supply everything..
handled right it actually could become a well the sky is the limit with in say twenty five years. And it is within the EU.. if you look carefully at Malta you will see just what I mean.. Allan > > Imagine a village creating all its own energy from wind (etc), with > its own fuel plant, vertical farms, connected in a wider network of > villages with hospitals, university, schools (however we'd change > them) - this would be in a world without transnational oil companies > and potentially without transnationals generally. I suspect the > climate change debate is not about carbon dioxide. And that we need > to remember we get very serious about mad issues like women bishops. > I have little doubt, given the abuse male clergy have perpetrated over > the centuries, that I am prepared to save the victims by distracting a > female vicar myself! > > > On 22 Nov, 07:53, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> yeah very much so. >> Allan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:48 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I agree Allan - rather like our bodies in heating up to combat >> > infection! >> >> > On 21 Nov, 21:20, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The earth has a habit of taking care of itself. >> >> Allan >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:27 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > From New Scientist this week: >> >> >> > "EMISSIONS are still way too high to stop dangerous climate change, >> >> > warns a new report from the United Nations Environment Programme >> >> > (UNEP). >> >> >> > To stop the Earth warming more than 2 °C above preindustrial levels, >> >> > global emissions must peak at 44 gigatonnes in 2020 and then fall. >> >> > However, the report says that 2020 emissions are likely to be between >> >> > 8 to 13 gigatonnes higher. This range is calculated on how well or not >> >> > countries deliver on their pledges to cut emissions. So in the best- >> >> > case scenario, where everyone meets their targets, emissions are still >> >> > 8 Gt too high. >> >> >> > This "emissions gap" has grown: first estimates by UNEP in 2010 put it >> >> > at between 5 and 9 Gt. >> >> >> > Unless drastic action is taken soon, we are likely to see a 4 °C rise >> >> > this century, warns Simon Anderson at the International Institute for >> >> > Environment and Development in Edinburgh, UK. >> >> >> > A report from the World Bank, also published this week, paints a stark >> >> > picture of a 4 °C warmer world riven by severe heatwaves, floods and >> >> > droughts. "It will be absolutely catastrophic for certain parts of the >> >> > world," Anderson says. >> >> >> > By delaying emissions cuts, the world is simply deciding to pay more >> >> > for them later, he says." >> >> >> > I remain to be convinced of the carbon dioxide argument. Of more >> >> > concern are reports such as those on the speed with which the former >> >> > lush territory now the Sahara Desert changed - possibly only decades >> >> > and certainly only a few hundred years. Climate change is obviously >> >> > part of earth history The question is why we are so unprepared. >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> -- >> >> ( >> >> ) >> >> |_D Allan >> >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> >> I am a Natural Airgunner - >> >> >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. >> >> > -- >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> |_D Allan >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> I am a Natural Airgunner - >> >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > > -- > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. I am a Natural Airgunner - Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
