Molly try the project Gutenberg http://www.gutenberg.org/ and they are free Allan
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting, achy, my husband and I are in the same boat. I keep going back > to the classics on my shelf and the rare books yet uncovered that I can find > for a song at the internet bookseller. Mostly, we surf the web for shreds > of what is new in the research and come up short, as this is passed on at a > need to know basis and posted on the Internet after the party or at the risk > of indiscretion. Reading has been more interesting during other phases of > life for me. > > > On Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:08:50 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >> >> I do something similar to Molly. Reading is largely about trying to >> fly with ideas for me, different to the day-to-day. I suspect most >> people in here would like anyone who wants to to be able to access >> universities. I'd do this by changing what the university is. What >> we have actually been doing seems to be madness. We are graduating >> half our population without increasing 'working smarter' jobs or even >> considering whether this is really possible - the probability is we >> are devaluing graduate advantage just as we force kids into large debt >> to get the qualifications. Finance, traditionally an unwanted cost >> against production and sales, now leeches massive amounts from >> production we used to retain as wages and liquid capital amongst our >> 50% least well off (this was about 20% of GDP when I left school ans >> is down to less than 1%). What I find in reading is consistent >> distraction from what really matters. There isn't much difference >> between watch mainstream news, whatever entertainment is on offer and >> the academic vanity publishing. It feels as though there is nothing >> to read or watch. >> >> On 27 Dec, 23:19, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I don't agree on the body language or behavioural cues rigs - all the >> > tests done show we are about as reliable as the toss of a coin. The >> > people who are best at making us think we can read them are >> > psychopaths - three times more likely to secure parole from 'experts'. >> > >> > On 27 Dec, 09:15, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yes the rich have more opportunities and exposure to make more >> > > wealth.. why would you say that is Rigsy?? Why are not these >> > > opportunities and exposure created for the poor? .. they are the ones >> > > that need it. or could it be part of the perks of worshiping at the >> > > feet of the golden calf?? >> > > Allan >> > >> > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:49 AM, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > It may be the rich have more opportunities and exposure, Allan. >> > > > Human >> > > > nature is human nature. Also, celebrity creates another kind of >> > > > challenge as the artist types gain fame and fortune- often to laugh >> > > > at >> > > > their own popularity and adulation of the public and critics- >> > > > Picasso >> > > > comes to mind, for instance- have a savage quote of his around here >> > > > somewhere. >> > >> > > > On Dec 25, 8:04 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> Oddly I think you have a better chance for good ethics among the >> > > >> poor >> > > >> over the rich, >> > > >> Allan >> > >> > > >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > I wonder if the researchers took into account that a truly >> > > >> > ethical person >> > > >> > would not participate in the kind of rubbish that presents >> > > >> > predictable >> > > >> > limited outcomes as fact. There may, indeed, be a correlation >> > > >> > between >> > > >> > creativity and ethics, but I suspect it is more inclusive and >> > > >> > requires >> > > >> > examination without the limits designed to define results. I keep >> > > >> > going back >> > > >> > to the model of spiral dynamics, one that allows and understands >> > > >> > that we all >> > > >> > move up and down and between memes during our lives given the >> > > >> > circumstances >> > > >> > of our experience. Someone who does not have enough money for >> > > >> > food may >> > > >> > cheat in this experiment more than someone who has never known >> > > >> > financial >> > > >> > stress or hunger. Here is a pretty good explanation of the >> > > >> > original Graves >> > > >> > material, although I've seen better, its the best I could find >> > > >> > online this >> > > >> > >> > > >> > morning.http://www.edumar.cl/documentos/SD_version_for_constellation5.pdf >> > >> > > >> > On Monday, December 24, 2012 5:58:21 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >> > >> > > >> >> A free paper with the ideas is at >> > > >> >>http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/11-064.pdf >> > > >> >> I was interested because I find professional ethics and >> > > >> >> religious >> > > >> >> morality collapse under circumstances of self-interest and >> > > >> >> become >> > > >> >> rationalisation. WE need creative solutions - but there is a >> > > >> >> dark >> > > >> >> side to creativity. >> > >> > > >> >> On 24 Dec, 22:03, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> >> > "The (Honest) Truth About Dishonesty: How We Lie to Everyone >> > > >> >> > — >> > > >> >> > Especially Ourselves" by Dan Ariely asks a seemingly simple >> > > >> >> > question — >> > > >> >> > “is dishonesty largely restricted to a few bad apples, or is >> > > >> >> > it a more >> > > >> >> > widespread problem?” — and goes on to reveal the surprising, >> > > >> >> > illuminating, often unsettling truths that underpin the >> > > >> >> > uncomfortable >> > > >> >> > answer. Like cruelty, dishonesty turns out to be a remarkably >> > > >> >> > prevalent phenomenon better explained by circumstances and >> > > >> >> > cognitive >> > > >> >> > processes than by concepts like character. >> > >> > > >> >> > Work like this is challenging traditional economics - the >> > > >> >> > genre is >> > > >> >> > 'behavioural economics'. My own take on this book and a lot >> > > >> >> > of work >> > > >> >> > from brain science and history is that we are at a tipping >> > > >> >> > point in >> > > >> >> > respect of the possibility of a human science. I'd like to >> > > >> >> > see a >> > > >> >> > broader literature take up this challenge beyond current >> > > >> >> > drivel on >> > > >> >> > black and white hats. >> > >> > > >> >> > So what are you guys reading? >> > >> > > >> > -- >> > >> > > >> -- >> > > >> ( >> > > >> ) >> > > >> |_D Allan >> > >> > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > > >> Of course I talk to myself, >> > > >> Sometimes I need expert advice..- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > >> - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > > -- >> > >> > > -- >> > > ( >> > > ) >> > > |_D Allan >> > >> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > > Of course I talk to myself, >> > > Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > -- > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. Of course I talk to myself, Sometimes I need expert advice.. --
