Thinking can be a process. What is thought- what is said/wrote- what is meant, for instance. Then if communicating, one depends on the understanding and mental abilities of the listener/reader. I would place dance in the general arts but musical theory-notation- orchestration is a language. But one must consider a symphony superior to a simple tune as is the case of complex math and language efforts/ reactions. It's a matter of degree.
On Jan 6, 3:18 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > We often 'keep things to ourselves' Allan. I come up with a lot > internally that I find ineffable. Thinking is often like a cut-up > scrapbook of memories in my head - though I've never kept a > scrapbook. I often think that language is esoteric - as in recent > experiments that have created minus absolute Kelvin temperatures that > are actually higher temperatures than absolute zero - which sounds > like tosh unless you know the esoteric definition of temperature in > science as other than what the thermometer reads when stuck in > something. One is confronted in explanation with what others don't > know, one's own ignorance and various gatekeepers, censorships and so > on - I take these as part of language. Music and dance, eurhythmics > and so on play communicative roles - though most I see on offer only > boredom for me. > > On 6 Jan, 17:54, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > what good is thinking if you can not communicate it, > > Allan > > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:33 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > There is still a question as to whether language plays any role in > > > thinking. > > > > On 6 Jan, 15:41, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> This is indeed a very, very complex topic worth discussing and > > >> simplifying. > > >> Help me understand what you are aiming at by telling me whether music and > > >> dance would also account for languages of thinking. Thanks. > > > >> 2013/1/6 andrew vecsey <[email protected]> > > > >> > I have written a new chapter to my "Think Park - A Journey thru space > > >> > and > > >> > time" publication/video that made me think more about thinking. > > >> > Whenever I > > >> > think, I seem to be talking to myself, I can think about something in > > >> > my > > >> > memory by imagining and reliving sensations I remember, but whenever I > > >> > think about those memories, I ultimately revert to talking to my self > > >> > (up > > >> > to now, fortunately silently). Do others in this group of thinkers > > >> > have the > > >> > same experience? If yes, why do you think that it is like that? If > > >> > not, how > > >> > do you manage to think without mentally talking it out? The excerpt of > > >> > my > > >> > new chapter that started me thinking about this line of thought is > > >> > below: > > > >> > "Before men could talk, they groaned and grunted. Just like with > > >> > crying > > >> > and laughing, it was sometimes difficult to tell the difference between > > >> > displays of sorrow and joy, or pain and pleasure. At the 60 meter > > >> > point > > >> > from the start of the think park, about 18,000 years ago, man started > > >> > to > > >> > use *words* to display his emotions. Words helped man to think and > > >> > enabled him to articulate and share his inner most thoughts. *Pictures > > >> > and written words* enabled his thoughts and his knowledge to be stored > > >> > for later contemplation and to be scattered like seed to grow. This > > >> > cultivation, communication and sharing of thoughts, knowledge and > > >> > experience resulted in the growth of *agriculture* that enabled * > > >> > civilizations* to flourish." > > > >> > -- > > > > -- > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > |_D Allan > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > Of course I talk to myself, > > Sometimes I need expert advice..- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --
