That should be said/written...you naughty kitten! On Jan 7, 6:56 pm, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > Thinking can be a process. What is thought- what is said/wrote- what > is meant, for instance. Then if communicating, one depends on the > understanding and mental abilities of the listener/reader. I would > place dance in the general arts but musical theory-notation- > orchestration is a language. But one must consider a symphony superior > to a simple tune as is the case of complex math and language efforts/ > reactions. It's a matter of degree. > > On Jan 6, 3:18 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We often 'keep things to ourselves' Allan. I come up with a lot > > internally that I find ineffable. Thinking is often like a cut-up > > scrapbook of memories in my head - though I've never kept a > > scrapbook. I often think that language is esoteric - as in recent > > experiments that have created minus absolute Kelvin temperatures that > > are actually higher temperatures than absolute zero - which sounds > > like tosh unless you know the esoteric definition of temperature in > > science as other than what the thermometer reads when stuck in > > something. One is confronted in explanation with what others don't > > know, one's own ignorance and various gatekeepers, censorships and so > > on - I take these as part of language. Music and dance, eurhythmics > > and so on play communicative roles - though most I see on offer only > > boredom for me. > > > On 6 Jan, 17:54, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > what good is thinking if you can not communicate it, > > > Allan > > > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:33 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There is still a question as to whether language plays any role in > > > > thinking. > > > > > On 6 Jan, 15:41, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> This is indeed a very, very complex topic worth discussing and > > > >> simplifying. > > > >> Help me understand what you are aiming at by telling me whether music > > > >> and > > > >> dance would also account for languages of thinking. Thanks. > > > > >> 2013/1/6 andrew vecsey <[email protected]> > > > > >> > I have written a new chapter to my "Think Park - A Journey thru > > > >> > space and > > > >> > time" publication/video that made me think more about thinking. > > > >> > Whenever I > > > >> > think, I seem to be talking to myself, I can think about something > > > >> > in my > > > >> > memory by imagining and reliving sensations I remember, but whenever > > > >> > I > > > >> > think about those memories, I ultimately revert to talking to my > > > >> > self (up > > > >> > to now, fortunately silently). Do others in this group of thinkers > > > >> > have the > > > >> > same experience? If yes, why do you think that it is like that? If > > > >> > not, how > > > >> > do you manage to think without mentally talking it out? The excerpt > > > >> > of my > > > >> > new chapter that started me thinking about this line of thought is > > > >> > below: > > > > >> > "Before men could talk, they groaned and grunted. Just like with > > > >> > crying > > > >> > and laughing, it was sometimes difficult to tell the difference > > > >> > between > > > >> > displays of sorrow and joy, or pain and pleasure. At the 60 meter > > > >> > point > > > >> > from the start of the think park, about 18,000 years ago, man > > > >> > started to > > > >> > use *words* to display his emotions. Words helped man to think and > > > >> > enabled him to articulate and share his inner most thoughts. > > > >> > *Pictures > > > >> > and written words* enabled his thoughts and his knowledge to be > > > >> > stored > > > >> > for later contemplation and to be scattered like seed to grow. This > > > >> > cultivation, communication and sharing of thoughts, knowledge and > > > >> > experience resulted in the growth of *agriculture* that enabled * > > > >> > civilizations* to flourish." > > > > >> > -- > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > |_D Allan > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > > Of course I talk to myself, > > > Sometimes I need expert advice..- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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