Interesting story Andrew.  I'm thinking more of knowledge being
embodied in such a way we might 'drive it as a car' and remove it from
competitive advantage systems exploited by various professions.  My
guess is we are dominated by monopoly economics because we won't
address the issues rigs raises - though I tend to heap them under the
label democratic foreign policy prevented by fear of the Other.

On Jan 10, 2:04 am, rigs <[email protected]> wrote:
> Life has already been a game of Monopoly! That's a major part of the
> problem(s).
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> I would implant the chip in another spot.
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> You will have to address religious and cultural systems that promote
> sexism, racism and ageism.
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> On Jan 9, 2:36 pm, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > In my science fiction novel "A Short History of a Long Future - A Guide for
> > New-man", I wrote a scenario that applies to this discussion. Before Allan
> > starts to let off his gas, the "I" is not "me" and it IS a science
> > fiction.  Below is the relevant excerpt from my novel.
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> > "One unexpected day the centralized data banks were infected with computer
> > viruses that erased their entire data banks. The multiple backups of the
> > last 10 years were also suddenly discovered to have been compromised.
> > Overnight electronic data of all money was irretrievably wiped out. Money
> > in all of its form and all its trace disappeared. The banks and their
> > services shut down immediately and all flow of money seized.
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> > I developed a device that measured mental and physical exertion done for
> > doing a series of tasks. I developed a financial system that did not
> > include banks. It was a decentralized system where everyone was his own
> > bank. It was based on my device. This measurement device allowed money to
> > be based not on gold, oil, or promises, but on human exertion. The amount
> > of this new money was to be based on the number of users. There was to be
> > no central governing point and the only regulation were in the algorithms
> > governing the issuance of money and in the initial registration. It was a
> > just-in-time system that issued just enough money at just the right time
> > and place to just the right person to ensure educational and health well
> > being.  The system was to be open and algorithms were to be proposed and
> > written by users themselves.
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> > I also developed a workable replacement for the once existing centralized
> > banks. It was a peer to peer networked system that allowed everyone to be
> > his own bank. It was free to join with only one requirement. - you had to
> > have a chip inserted into the forehead under the skin. The chip came with
> > an account containing 1 million dollars to last you a lifetime and pay for
> > your basic living needs.
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> >  All countries adopted the implantation of the chip as a basic human
> > right.  My system provided all the requirements that make money workable.
> > It could not be counterfeited and could not be stolen or lost. It was based
> > on a unique code signed with each person's unique biometric signature. It
> > could be saved and it was always redeemable anywhere anytime automatically.
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> > Everyone who wanted to work and get paid had to use his system which was
> > implanted into the forehead. Everyone who wanted to buy anything had to
> > have this implant as well. It acted as a electronic money bank account. To
> > fill it you had to work as usual. You could invest your capital by buying
> > company stocks. You gambled your investment betting to profit by buying
> > into a hopefully successful venture but risking to lose it should the
> > ventures fail.
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> > Your inheritance was limited to family heirlooms and houses. Your total
> > accumulated wealth was also limited to a certain amount guaranteeing a very
> > high standard of living. Anything over this was redistributed back to the
> > people who you got it from. You were rewarded for this contribution in the
> > form of highly valued merit awards that came with valued prestige.There was
> > no income tax but you paid a sales tax on all items you bought. Food,
> > clothing and other living necessities were exempt from tax. Sales tax paid
> > for all public facilities and services like government, roads, hospitals,
> > schools, fire department and police.
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> > Within a few months of offering the accounts, everyone wanted an implant.
> > It was free, came with a start-up capital of $1,000,000, and gave you the
> > promise of a secure future, and the hopes of becoming wealthy. For the
> > skeptical there was an opt out possibility. Their accounts would be locked
> > and after a year they would be able to re join and continue where they left
> > off. By replacing banks and eliminating money speculation, poverty was
> > greatly reduced world wide. Everyone became their own bank. Everyone became
> > an account.
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> > Accounts below the start-up capital could spend only a maximum of $2,000 a
> > month on products and services. But could still invest a part in stocks.
> > Accounts over the start-up capital could form public companies and sell
> > company stocks. Accounts over $10,000,000 automatically overflowed to the
> > accounts with the least capital and were duly credited with distinguished
> > awards of achievement and merit.
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> > A few people refused to become accounts and to have the implants because of
> > religious beliefs. They usually lived out in the country and tried to live
> > off the dying land. They believed that the implants were prophesied in
> > their bible as the sign of the devil. Greed took on a new meaning for many.
> > It was no longer desirable to have as much as you can but to give as much
> > as you must and thus get as many merit points as you can.  New aims and
> > goals surfaced. Competition changed to cooperation.  Many rich ended up to
> > be great philanthropists. Life became like a game of Monopoly."
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> > On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:16:47 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
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> > > The human world is in a mess.  It's hard to express what is going on.
> > > My guess is we are being ruled by a small, unelected, hidden politburo
> > > we could call banksters.  I take this as metaphor, much as I would the
> > > notion the rulers are alien lizards.  I also guess they have skewed
> > > any dialogue we have to make it very difficult to identify the real
> > > problem we face through argument.  This is more or less a 'Dr Who'
> > > predicament, though I suspect it is the real one we face.
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> > > Those of us who are democrats (small d) know the answer.  We want a
> > > human world at peace and our institutions based on real democracy with
> > > government as unobtrusive as possible in the lives of reasonable
> > > individuals.  This, sadly, is the easy bit.  Even something as easy as
> > > this is potentially totalising and fascist.
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> > > Much, of course, has been written on this, and my conclusion is this
> > > can't be helping much.  My own country, Britain, has made some kind of
> > > decision to give up empire, but we clearly cling to the coat-tails of
> > > the USA through the dupes or war criminals we elect - or who know a
> > > secret case not made to us that justifies war and other rotten
> > > policies.  If I was capable of listing all the literature I've read on
> > > this matter I wouldn't finish until sometime after a week tomorrow and
> > > I'm by no means a specialist.  Even if the democratic parts of this
> > > literature is right, it doesn't convince me of any course of action,
> > > as almost none of it explains how we might lay down the arms of the US
> > > umbrella without giving up to something worse or simply as bad run by
> > > people less favourable to my ethnicity.
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> > > My belief is we must change what dialogue and argument are to address
> > > a move to real, global democracy.  We have new technology that would
> > > allow this, but currently it is being subsumed into the skewed form
> > > that has allowed domination through the ages.  It could be that this
> > > technology would tell us we need the American Empire.  I rather hope
> > > it would rather be a call to democratic arms and very substantial
> > > changes in what we do and can be.  Any suggestions as to what this
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