Rigs on FIRE! On Jan 12, 7:28 am, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > Why don't some of the brains that the USA has drained move back to > their home countries and fix them? I am thinking of those who withdrew > all their money and live like fat cats while their country collapses. > > On Jan 11, 3:27 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I may have to move back to Scotland to stay in the EU. Sad stuff, > > showing only we haven't moved on here. I see the French now have > > boots on the ground in Mali. > > > On Jan 11, 8:26 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You see, you shouldn't have changed your proxy settings from Scottish to > > > English! > > > > Ah well, the American Empire is helping us out again, here it is in the > > > French language version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqSgIhU28B8. > > > Foreign affairs are being discussed after 46 minutes. > > > > 2013/1/11 archytas <[email protected]> > > > > > They won't let me watch your video in England Gabby. > > > > > On Jan 10, 2:04 am, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Life has already been a game of Monopoly! That's a major part of the > > > > > problem(s). > > > > > > I would implant the chip in another spot. > > > > > > You will have to address religious and cultural systems that promote > > > > > sexism, racism and ageism. > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2:36 pm, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > In my science fiction novel "A Short History of a Long Future - A > > > > Guide for > > > > > > New-man", I wrote a scenario that applies to this discussion. Before > > > > Allan > > > > > > starts to let off his gas, the "I" is not "me" and it IS a science > > > > > > fiction. Below is the relevant excerpt from my novel. > > > > > > > "One unexpected day the centralized data banks were infected with > > > > computer > > > > > > viruses that erased their entire data banks. The multiple backups of > > > > the > > > > > > last 10 years were also suddenly discovered to have been > > > > > > compromised. > > > > > > Overnight electronic data of all money was irretrievably wiped out. > > > > Money > > > > > > in all of its form and all its trace disappeared. The banks and > > > > > > their > > > > > > services shut down immediately and all flow of money seized. > > > > > > > I developed a device that measured mental and physical exertion done > > > > for > > > > > > doing a series of tasks. I developed a financial system that did not > > > > > > include banks. It was a decentralized system where everyone was his > > > > > > own > > > > > > bank. It was based on my device. This measurement device allowed > > > > > > money > > > > to > > > > > > be based not on gold, oil, or promises, but on human exertion. The > > > > amount > > > > > > of this new money was to be based on the number of users. There was > > > > > > to > > > > be > > > > > > no central governing point and the only regulation were in the > > > > algorithms > > > > > > governing the issuance of money and in the initial registration. It > > > > was a > > > > > > just-in-time system that issued just enough money at just the right > > > > time > > > > > > and place to just the right person to ensure educational and health > > > > well > > > > > > being. The system was to be open and algorithms were to be proposed > > > > and > > > > > > written by users themselves. > > > > > > > I also developed a workable replacement for the once existing > > > > centralized > > > > > > banks. It was a peer to peer networked system that allowed everyone > > > > > > to > > > > be > > > > > > his own bank. It was free to join with only one requirement. - you > > > > > > had > > > > to > > > > > > have a chip inserted into the forehead under the skin. The chip came > > > > with > > > > > > an account containing 1 million dollars to last you a lifetime and > > > > > > pay > > > > for > > > > > > your basic living needs. > > > > > > > All countries adopted the implantation of the chip as a basic human > > > > > > right. My system provided all the requirements that make money > > > > workable. > > > > > > It could not be counterfeited and could not be stolen or lost. It > > > > > > was > > > > based > > > > > > on a unique code signed with each person's unique biometric > > > > > > signature. > > > > It > > > > > > could be saved and it was always redeemable anywhere anytime > > > > automatically. > > > > > > > Everyone who wanted to work and get paid had to use his system which > > > > was > > > > > > implanted into the forehead. Everyone who wanted to buy anything > > > > > > had to > > > > > > have this implant as well. It acted as a electronic money bank > > > > account. To > > > > > > fill it you had to work as usual. You could invest your capital by > > > > buying > > > > > > company stocks. You gambled your investment betting to profit by > > > > > > buying > > > > > > into a hopefully successful venture but risking to lose it should > > > > > > the > > > > > > ventures fail. > > > > > > > Your inheritance was limited to family heirlooms and houses. Your > > > > > > total > > > > > > accumulated wealth was also limited to a certain amount > > > > > > guaranteeing a > > > > very > > > > > > high standard of living. Anything over this was redistributed back > > > > > > to > > > > the > > > > > > people who you got it from. You were rewarded for this contribution > > > > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > form of highly valued merit awards that came with valued > > > > prestige.There was > > > > > > no income tax but you paid a sales tax on all items you bought. > > > > > > Food, > > > > > > clothing and other living necessities were exempt from tax. Sales > > > > > > tax > > > > paid > > > > > > for all public facilities and services like government, roads, > > > > hospitals, > > > > > > schools, fire department and police. > > > > > > > Within a few months of offering the accounts, everyone wanted an > > > > implant. > > > > > > It was free, came with a start-up capital of $1,000,000, and gave > > > > > > you > > > > the > > > > > > promise of a secure future, and the hopes of becoming wealthy. For > > > > > > the > > > > > > skeptical there was an opt out possibility. Their accounts would be > > > > locked > > > > > > and after a year they would be able to re join and continue where > > > > > > they > > > > left > > > > > > off. By replacing banks and eliminating money speculation, poverty > > > > > > was > > > > > > greatly reduced world wide. Everyone became their own bank. Everyone > > > > became > > > > > > an account. > > > > > > > Accounts below the start-up capital could spend only a maximum of > > > > $2,000 a > > > > > > month on products and services. But could still invest a part in > > > > stocks. > > > > > > Accounts over the start-up capital could form public companies and > > > > > > sell > > > > > > company stocks. Accounts over $10,000,000 automatically overflowed > > > > > > to > > > > the > > > > > > accounts with the least capital and were duly credited with > > > > distinguished > > > > > > awards of achievement and merit. > > > > > > > A few people refused to become accounts and to have the implants > > > > because of > > > > > > religious beliefs. They usually lived out in the country and tried > > > > > > to > > > > live > > > > > > off the dying land. They believed that the implants were prophesied > > > > > > in > > > > > > their bible as the sign of the devil. Greed took on a new meaning > > > > > > for > > > > many. > > > > > > It was no longer desirable to have as much as you can but to give as > > > > much > > > > > > as you must and thus get as many merit points as you can. New aims > > > > > > and > > > > > > goals surfaced. Competition changed to cooperation. Many rich ended > > > > up to > > > > > > be great philanthropists. Life became like a game of Monopoly." > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:16:47 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: > > > > > > > > The human world is in a mess. It's hard to express what is going > > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > My guess is we are being ruled by a small, unelected, hidden > > > > politburo > > > > > > > we could call banksters. I take this as metaphor, much as I would > > > > the > > > > > > > notion the rulers are alien lizards. I also guess they have > > > > > > > skewed > > > > > > > any dialogue we have to make it very difficult to identify the > > > > > > > real > > > > > > > problem we face through argument. This is more or less a 'Dr Who' > > > > > > > predicament, though I suspect it is the real one we face. > > > > > > > > Those of us who are democrats (small d) know the answer. We want > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > human world at peace and our institutions based on real democracy > > > > with > > > > > > > government as unobtrusive as possible in the lives of reasonable > > > > > > > individuals. This, sadly, is the easy bit. Even something as > > > > > > > easy > > > > as > > > > > > > this is potentially totalising and fascist. > > > > > > > > Much, of course, has been written on this, and my conclusion is > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > can't be helping much. My own country, Britain, has made some > > > > > > > kind > > > > of > > > > > > > decision to give up empire, but we clearly cling to the > > > > > > > coat-tails of > > > > > > > the USA through the dupes or war criminals we elect - or who know > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > secret case not made to us that justifies war and other rotten > > > > > > > policies. If I was capable of listing all the literature I've > > > > > > > read > > > > on > > > > > > > this matter I wouldn't finish until sometime after a week tomorrow > > > > and > > > > > > > I'm by no means a specialist. Even if the democratic parts of > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > literature is right, it doesn't convince me of any course of > > > > > > > action, > > > > > > > as almost none of it explains how we might lay down the arms of > > > > > > > the > > > > US > > > > > > > umbrella without giving up to something worse or simply as bad > > > > > > > run by > > > > > > > people less favourable to my ethnicity. > > > > > > > > My belief is we must change what dialogue and argument are to > > > > > > > address > > > > > > > a move to real, global democracy. We have new technology that > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > allow this, but currently it is being subsumed into the skewed > > > > > > > form > > > > > > > that has allowed domination through the ages. It could be that > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > technology would tell us we need the American Empire. I rather > > > > > > > hope > > > > > > > it would rather be a call to democratic arms and very substantial > > > > > > > changes in what we do and can be. Any suggestions as to what this > > ... > > read more »
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