Now that sounds more like you. :) What you are describing or asking I now understand/interpret/hear in terms of what I know about what they are trying to find out about "junk DNA". Its purpose/function/added value. As for what you describe as another way, I know/experience/see this in what the companies describe as "developing the market". We are still on topic, aren't we?
2013/3/21 James <[email protected]> > I have a feeling you are being charitable with me gabby (cringe). What you > say makes sense, and should add that the intent I refer to is in excess of > that needed for mere gene survival fitness. In that sense I consider the > adaptations as simulations and the excess as breaking the barriers of > meta-simulation, or in another way, not just running within time but > operating on it by taking advantage of the rules and finding ways to bend > them. Now it is my turn to ask, does that make sense [to anyone]? > > > On 3/20/2013 3:01 AM, gabbydott wrote: > >> I don't know if this is good or bad, but i hear that you haven't just >> heard about mirror neurons, that this is a relatively consciously made up >> construct, a construct with intent or purpose. Also it sounds strange when >> you say that this neurological mechanism is strange (to you). That's where >> my "parallel mirror neurons" come into play, i compare what you say with >> what i have heard you saying before and add the info as well as my >> judgement on what you say to my internal "Virtualization" of you. The leap >> is more of a constant exercise of differentiating between you and me while >> operating on the virtualization of each participant, so to speak. Does that >> somehow make sense to you? >> >> Of course, I could go back to the group website and search for the real >> data on what you have been saying on neurological mechanisms. But this >> would be a completely new project. I'd have to go back and construct a new >> image with my knowledge of now. >> >> But since you are still alive and still communicating, I find it much >> easier and more purposeful to keep on listening to what you say, to respond >> to it, and to rely on you saying, if you disagree. Not a good position for >> me to be in, more of a survival strategy. Now that's worth a leap into >> rethinking mode. ;) >> >> >> 2013/3/20 James <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> My response was mostly a parallel narrative, my thinking on a >> personal level is when does a system of components transcend the >> boudaries of automata and begin to engage in the operations of >> intent. Where does gene fitness adaptation break loose into >> something perceiving, interacting, understanding and mastering? I >> have heard that our ability to reflect and interact on an intimate >> level arises from a strange neurological mechanism called mirror >> neurons. If this is something like the virtualization technologies >> we have been building in technology then with a bit more scale and >> pondering our science may make the leap logarithmically. >> >> >> On 3/18/2013 8:15 PM, James wrote: >> >> I see this sometimes too Andrew, and we learn how our internal >> systems and culture drive and shape us, so we can create. We >> model from the simplest sensory stimuli on to reflections on >> the nature of our existence and what could be in a >> simultaneous simulation of reality. Our world can be full of >> intent, or I should say we experience it thus due to our >> capacity arising from our nature and drawing parables in the >> mist. It makes me wonder how many levels of abstraction, >> simulation and foresight are necessary to represent the human >> element. That minds like ours are derived from nature is >> astonishing and awe inspiring, that we reach so far and yet >> innocence is so fragile, the experience of awareness is far >> from today's science I think. Our synthetic counterparts or >> robots will have to wait. >> >> On 3/13/2013 5:35 AM, andrew vecsey wrote: >> >> Perhaps we are born into a world filled with negative >> aspects rather than positive aspects so as to give us a >> direction. We are born small so that we can grow. We are >> born ignorant so that we could know. We are born with >> negative aspects so that we could acquire positive ones. >> >> On Monday, January 28, 2013 12:11:39 PM UTC+1, andrew >> vecsey wrote: >> >> Why do so many of us remember negative feelings easier >> than >> positive ones. Pain over pleasure. Bad news over good >> news. Why >> does "bad" overshadow "good", immorality over >> morality, despair >> over hope, pessimism over optimism. Why does hate >> appear to be >> more powerful than love? Why is greed louder than >> generosity. Why >> is destruction of war so much faster than the building >> power of >> peace. Why can one little lie destroy a lifetime of >> trust. Why are >> lies more influential than truth. It all seems so one >> sided. 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