Faked enthusiasm is as easy to spot as fake love. It is like a built in 
like a lie detector that god created us with. Sounds like a good way to 
detect lying on the internet. You can call it "god" instead of "big 
brother". 

On Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:08:39 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
.....................

> Quite what junk DNA is has raised a big recent controversy - gist at 
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/24/scientists-attacked-over-junk-dna-claim
>  
> I agree with rigs that the term is unfortunate. 
>
> ........but I could feign 'enthusiasm' ..
> ........' to detect resistance!  Even this 
> .....no employees dumb enough to support 
> excellence, ......

 

> if we spent out time pointing such devices at 
> each other though rigs!  Watch out for the first one minute dating 
> agency providing such!  Arghh" .
>
> On Mar 22, 1:06 pm, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > Junk is an unfortunate adjective- it sounds too random. My guess is 
> > that further selection takes place in this area which selects the 
> > strongest marker- or whatever it's called- such in the color of eyes, 
> > hair, and other characteristics. There are also generational skips in 
> > play. I have noted other strange echoes of a missing parent such as 
> > the style of laughter which is a surprise and so many other 
> > recognitions. At any rate, we are just beginning to sort through the 
> > data in this one area as in others- I think it is called "big data" 
> > which will overcome the religious notion of "sins of the father" stuff 
> > as well as curses and fate and will hopefully allow a more rational 
> > and postive approach/life choices for each unique individual. But it 
> > will also cause mischief. 
> > 
> > On Mar 22, 5:16 am, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Not all DNA code for protein. We have non coding DNA called "junk DNA" 
> that 
> > > ensure we are all unique. While normal DNA codes for protein to make, 
> for 
> > > example a "nose", junk DNA ensures that we grow a nose that "looks" 
> like a 
> > > mixture of our father`s and our mother`s nose. 
> > 
> > > On Friday, March 22, 2013 12:36:39 AM UTC+1, Ash wrote: 
> > 
> > > > My thoughts didn't include "junk DNA", my thinking on such terms are 
> > > > mixed in that some genes may not be useful or represent just another 
> > > > failure point, but also that the supposed junk in one set of 
> > > > circumstances may prove quite beneficial in others like a backup, an 
> > > > alternate development chain or complex interdependencies we haven't 
> > > > observed yet. You may have a connection in mind I haven't gleaned. 
> > 
> > > > Developing the market sounds similar but I am trying to root out an 
> > > > aspect of this that doesn't require jumping to a premature 
> conclusion, 
> > > > such as in 'intelligent design', materialism, rigid ontologies or 
> > > > realism. Thanks for helping me explore here gabby, lets hope some 
> form 
> > > > emerges in expression. :) 
> > 
> > > > On 3/21/2013 3:57 AM, gabbydott wrote: 
> > > > > Now that sounds more like you. :) 
> > > > > What you are describing or asking I now understand/interpret/hear 
> in 
> > > > > terms of what I know about what they are trying to find out about 
> > > > > "junk DNA". Its purpose/function/added value. As for what you 
> describe 
> > > > > as another way, I know/experience/see this in what the companies 
> > > > > describe as "developing the market". We are still on topic, aren't 
> we? 
> > 
> > > > > 2013/3/21 James <[email protected] <javascript:> <mailto: 
> > > > [email protected] <javascript:>>> 
> > 
> > > > >     I have a feeling you are being charitable with me gabby 
> (cringe). 
> > > > >     What you say makes sense, and should add that the intent I 
> refer 
> > > > >     to is in excess of that needed for mere gene survival fitness. 
> In 
> > > > >     that sense I consider the adaptations as simulations and the 
> > > > >     excess as breaking the barriers of meta-simulation, or in 
> another 
> > > > >     way, not just running within time but operating on it by 
> taking 
> > > > >     advantage of the rules and finding ways to bend them. Now it 
> is my 
> > > > >     turn to ask, does that make sense [to anyone]? 
> > 
> > > > >     On 3/20/2013 3:01 AM, gabbydott wrote: 
> > 
> > > > >         I don't know if this is good or bad, but i hear that you 
> > > > >         haven't just heard about mirror neurons, that this is a 
> > > > >         relatively consciously made up construct, a construct with 
> > > > >         intent or purpose. Also it sounds strange when you say 
> that 
> > > > >         this neurological mechanism is strange (to you). That's 
> where 
> > > > >         my "parallel mirror neurons" come into play, i compare 
> what 
> > > > >         you say with what i have heard you saying before and add 
> the 
> > > > >         info as well as my judgement on what you say to my 
> internal 
> > > > >         "Virtualization" of you. The leap is more of a constant 
> > > > >         exercise of differentiating between you and me while 
> operating 
> > > > >         on the virtualization of each participant, so to speak. 
> Does 
> > > > >         that somehow make sense to you? 
> > 
> > > > >         Of course, I could go back to the group website and search 
> for 
> > > > >         the real data on what you have been saying on neurological 
> > > > >         mechanisms. But this would be a completely new project. 
> I'd 
> > > > >         have to go back and construct a new image with my 
> knowledge of 
> > > > >         now. 
> > 
> > > > >         But since you are still alive and still communicating, I 
> find 
> > > > >         it much easier and more purposeful to keep on listening to 
> > > > >         what you say, to respond to it, and to rely on you saying, 
> if 
> > > > >         you disagree. Not a good position for me to be in, more of 
> a 
> > > > >         survival strategy. Now that's worth a leap into rethinking 
> > > > >         mode. ;) 
> > 
> > > > >         2013/3/20 James <[email protected] <javascript:> 
> > > > >         <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>> <mailto: 
> > > > [email protected] <javascript:> 
> > > > >         <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>>>> 
> > 
> > > > >             My response was mostly a parallel narrative, my 
> thinking on 
> > > > a 
> > > > >             personal level is when does a system of components 
> > > > >         transcend the 
> > > > >             boudaries of automata and begin to engage in the 
> operations 
> > > > of 
> > > > >             intent. Where does gene fitness adaptation break loose 
> into 
> > > > >             something perceiving, interacting, understanding and 
> > > > >         mastering? I 
> > > > >             have heard that our ability to reflect and interact on 
> an 
> > > > >         intimate 
> > > > >             level arises from a strange neurological mechanism 
> called 
> > > > >         mirror 
> > > > >             neurons. If this is something like the virtualization 
> > > > >         technologies 
> > > > >             we have been building in technology then with a bit 
> more 
> > > > >         scale and 
> > > > >             pondering our science may make the leap 
> logarithmically. 
> > 
> > > > >             On 3/18/2013 8:15 PM, James wrote: 
> > 
> > > > >                 I see this sometimes too Andrew, and we learn how 
> our 
> > > > >         internal 
> > > > >                 systems and culture drive and shape us, so we can 
> > > > >         create. We 
> > > > >                 model from the simplest sensory stimuli on to 
> > > > >         reflections on 
> > > > >                 the nature of our existence and what could be in a 
> > > > >                 simultaneous simulation of reality. Our world can 
> be 
> > > > >         full of 
> > > > >                 intent, or I should say we experience it thus due 
> to our 
> > > > >                 capacity arising from our nature and drawing 
> parables 
> > > > >         in the 
> > > > >                 mist. It makes me wonder how many levels of 
> abstraction, 
> > > > >                 simulation and foresight are necessary to 
> represent 
> > > > >         the human 
> > > > >                 element. That minds like ours are derived from 
> nature is 
> > > > >                 astonishing and awe inspiring, that we reach so 
> far 
> > > > >         and yet 
> > > > >                 innocence is so fragile, the experience of 
> awareness 
> > > > >         is far 
> > > > >                 from today's science I think. Our synthetic 
> > > > >         counterparts or 
> > > > >                 robots will have to wait. 
> > 
> > > > >                 On 3/13/2013 5:35 AM, andrew vecsey wrote: 
> > 
> > > > >                     Perhaps we are born into a world filled with 
> > > > negative 
> > > > >                     aspects rather than positive aspects so as to 
> give 
> > > > >         us a 
> > > > >                     direction. We are born small so that we can 
> grow. 
> > > > >         We are 
> > > > >                     born ignorant so that we could know. We are 
> born 
> > > > with 
> > > > >                     negative aspects so that we could acquire 
> positive 
> > > > >         ones. 
> > 
> > > > >                     On Monday, January 28, 2013 12:11:39 PM UTC+1, 
> > > > andrew 
> > > > >                     vecsey wrote: 
> > 
> > > > >                         Why do so many of us remember negative 
> > > > >         feelings easier 
> > > > >                     than 
> > > > >                         positive ones. Pain over pleasure. Bad 
> news 
> > > > >         over good 
> > > > >                     news. Why 
> > > > >                         does "bad" overshadow "good", immorality 
> over 
> > > > >                     morality, despair 
> > > > >                         over hope, pessimism over optimism. Why 
> does 
> > > > hate 
> > > > >                     appear to be 
> > > > >                         more powerful than love? Why is greed 
> louder 
> > > > than 
> > > > >                     generosity. Why 
> > > > >                         is destruction of war so much faster than 
> the 
> > > > >         building 
> > > > >                     power of 
> > > > >                         peace. Why can one little lie destroy a 
> > > > >         lifetime of 
> > > > >                     trust. Why are 
> > > > >                         lies more influential than truth. It all 
> seems 
> > > > >         so one 
> > > > >                     sided. Why 
> > > > >                         is that? 
> > 
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