I don't know if this is good or bad, but i hear that you haven't just heard
about mirror neurons, that this is a relatively consciously made up
construct, a construct with intent or purpose. Also it sounds strange when
you say that this neurological mechanism is strange (to you). That's where
my "parallel mirror neurons" come into play, i compare what you say with
what i have heard you saying before and add the info as well as my
judgement on what you say to my internal "Virtualization" of you. The leap
is more of a constant exercise of differentiating between you and me while
operating on the virtualization of each participant, so to speak. Does that
somehow make sense to you?

Of course, I could go back to the group website and search for the real
data on what you have been saying on neurological mechanisms. But this
would be a completely new project. I'd have to go back and construct a new
image with my knowledge of now.

But since you are still alive and still communicating, I find it much
easier and more purposeful to keep on listening to what you say, to respond
to it, and to rely on you saying, if you disagree. Not a good position for
me to be in, more of a survival strategy. Now that's worth a leap into
rethinking mode. ;)


2013/3/20 James <[email protected]>

> My response was mostly a parallel narrative, my thinking on a personal
> level is when does a system of components transcend the boudaries of
> automata and begin to engage in the operations of intent. Where does gene
> fitness adaptation break loose into something perceiving, interacting,
> understanding and mastering? I have heard that our ability to reflect and
> interact on an intimate level arises from a strange neurological mechanism
> called mirror neurons. If this is something like the virtualization
> technologies we have been building in technology then with a bit more scale
> and pondering our science may make the leap logarithmically.
>
>
> On 3/18/2013 8:15 PM, James wrote:
>
>> I see this sometimes too Andrew, and we learn how our internal systems
>> and culture drive and shape us, so we can create. We model from the
>> simplest sensory stimuli on to reflections on the nature of our existence
>> and what could be in a simultaneous simulation of reality. Our world can be
>> full of intent, or I should say we experience it thus due to our capacity
>> arising from our nature and drawing parables in the mist. It makes me
>> wonder how many levels of abstraction, simulation and foresight are
>> necessary to represent the human element. That minds like ours are derived
>> from nature is astonishing and awe inspiring, that we reach so far and yet
>> innocence is so fragile, the experience of awareness is far from today's
>> science I think. Our synthetic counterparts or robots will have to wait.
>>
>> On 3/13/2013 5:35 AM, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps we are born into a world filled with negative aspects rather
>>> than positive aspects so as to give us a direction. We are born small so
>>> that we can grow. We are born ignorant so that we could know. We are born
>>> with negative aspects so that we could acquire positive ones.
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 28, 2013 12:11:39 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>>
>>>     Why do so many of us remember negative feelings easier than
>>>     positive ones. Pain over pleasure. Bad news over good news. Why
>>>     does "bad" overshadow "good", immorality over morality, despair
>>>     over hope, pessimism over optimism. Why does hate appear to be
>>>     more powerful than love? Why is greed louder than generosity. Why
>>>     is destruction of war so much faster than the building power of
>>>     peace. Why can one little lie destroy a lifetime of trust. Why are
>>>     lies more influential than truth. It all seems so one sided. Why
>>>     is that?
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