The problem today is there is little to be ashamed about, the mentality seems to lead to what one can get away with. The only shame is in getting caught..:-)
That is the political moral standard demonstrated by many politicians, business and religious leaders today. Allan A Living Soul -----Original Message----- From: Molly <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge The moral gauge I suggest to kids is "never do anything you would not want everyone to know about." The age of transparency. On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:35:46 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: > > When the blind follow the blind they both will fall into a pit. > > Looking at the justification for moral values little should surprise > anyone. The actions vs talk how can there be morals. I was talking with my > daughter and she made the comment to me that was an honor yet kind of > strange. When she had a situation that she did not know how to deal with it > she always asked herself how would my Dad handle it? > > Who are the moral compasses today? Who are our guides? Or is it simply > does it really matter as all there is what one sees? > > Allan > A Living Soul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:09 PM > Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge > > I don't know what percentage of humanity is capable or observing self and > correcting self, but the longer I live, the smaller I think that number may > be. As I look around, i see so many of the people around me acting out > their emotions (revenge among them) on others. Not always easy to see if > they know just what they are doing and why. > > On Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >> >> Complex stuff Pol. I get the feelings, but can't remember doing much >> about them. Politicians raise it in me as soon as their lips move. So >> does my grandson (currently idle, smelly teenager), though 'tough love' >> doesn't appeal. Academic criticism often feels a form of it and a lot of >> projection and ad hom is involved. In my time, cops used to beat up sex >> offenders, largely on the basis the court system didn't work. I used to >> pursue them for other crimes. There is nothing more exhilarating than >> pointing out the flaws in others (from the movie Clerks), a sort of >> revenge. Many lecturing colleagues took revenge out on students - >> education generally looks pretty nasty to me. >> >> I like to think I can walk away from it, as in not retaliating in rugby, >> but I always did within the rules. Human behaviour is so dire we might be >> in a constant state of vendetta. In films the black hats are set up as so >> bad they deserve what they get. In reality, we tend to take out revenge on >> powerless victims. Child sexual exploitation may be an example. The >> victim is usually subject to multiple acts of revenge from supposedly >> decent people. >> >> On Sunday, 19 October 2014 12:13:23 UTC+1, pol.science kid wrote: >>> >>> I was on the internet.. and just came across this tv series called >>> "revenge".. and i was thinking... are we capable of not taking revenge.. >>> regarding matters that affect us too deeply... i have pretty mean vengeful >>> feelings when i feel i have been wronged unjustly.. of course when i cant >>> do anything in the situation i act out my revenge mentally.. plan something >>> to get back to the person ... its quite a revelation when you think >>> yourself quite a decent person.. What do you guys think of revenge.. its >>> dealt with in every movie and television series or novel.. and of course >>> what our instructive morality from 'elders' says is that do not take >>> revenge.. But i think forgiveness is a capacity.. and we are so inclined >>> for revenge.. Since most of you have pretty varied experience in life.. >>> Have any of you ever taken revenge.. or decided not to? >>> >>> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
