Chimps do revenge - if you inject one as a vet it will bite you if given the chance over the next couple of days. Films give us a sense of justice from revenge, though examples I've seen in reality have been pathetic and misguided.
On Sunday, 19 October 2014 19:18:30 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > The problem today is there is little to be ashamed about, the mentality > seems to lead to what one can get away with. The only shame is in getting > caught..:-) > > That is the political moral standard demonstrated by many politicians, > business and religious leaders today. > > > Allan > A Living Soul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge > > The moral gauge I suggest to kids is "never do anything you would not want > everyone to know about." The age of transparency. > > On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:35:46 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> When the blind follow the blind they both will fall into a pit. >> >> Looking at the justification for moral values little should surprise >> anyone. The actions vs talk how can there be morals. I was talking with my >> daughter and she made the comment to me that was an honor yet kind of >> strange. When she had a situation that she did not know how to deal with it >> she always asked herself how would my Dad handle it? >> >> Who are the moral compasses today? Who are our guides? Or is it simply >> does it really matter as all there is what one sees? >> >> Allan >> A Living Soul >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Molly <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:09 PM >> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge >> >> I don't know what percentage of humanity is capable or observing self and >> correcting self, but the longer I live, the smaller I think that number may >> be. As I look around, i see so many of the people around me acting out >> their emotions (revenge among them) on others. Not always easy to see if >> they know just what they are doing and why. >> >> On Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>> >>> Complex stuff Pol. I get the feelings, but can't remember doing much >>> about them. Politicians raise it in me as soon as their lips move. So >>> does my grandson (currently idle, smelly teenager), though 'tough love' >>> doesn't appeal. Academic criticism often feels a form of it and a lot of >>> projection and ad hom is involved. In my time, cops used to beat up sex >>> offenders, largely on the basis the court system didn't work. I used to >>> pursue them for other crimes. There is nothing more exhilarating than >>> pointing out the flaws in others (from the movie Clerks), a sort of >>> revenge. Many lecturing colleagues took revenge out on students - >>> education generally looks pretty nasty to me. >>> >>> I like to think I can walk away from it, as in not retaliating in rugby, >>> but I always did within the rules. Human behaviour is so dire we might be >>> in a constant state of vendetta. In films the black hats are set up as so >>> bad they deserve what they get. In reality, we tend to take out revenge on >>> powerless victims. Child sexual exploitation may be an example. The >>> victim is usually subject to multiple acts of revenge from supposedly >>> decent people. >>> >>> On Sunday, 19 October 2014 12:13:23 UTC+1, pol.science kid wrote: >>>> >>>> I was on the internet.. and just came across this tv series called >>>> "revenge".. and i was thinking... are we capable of not taking revenge.. >>>> regarding matters that affect us too deeply... i have pretty mean vengeful >>>> feelings when i feel i have been wronged unjustly.. of course when i cant >>>> do anything in the situation i act out my revenge mentally.. plan >>>> something >>>> to get back to the person ... its quite a revelation when you think >>>> yourself quite a decent person.. What do you guys think of revenge.. its >>>> dealt with in every movie and television series or novel.. and of course >>>> what our instructive morality from 'elders' says is that do not take >>>> revenge.. But i think forgiveness is a capacity.. and we are so inclined >>>> for revenge.. Since most of you have pretty varied experience in life.. >>>> Have any of you ever taken revenge.. or decided not to? >>>> >>>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
