Mr. Heretic. This is not the "Aliens" thread.
I never said it was spoken english. It was a latin vulgate translation anyway, with "enhancements". On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:04:05 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Tony king james english was never a spoken english. > > As for aliens the problems you are creating in your mind were all factored > in.. The real possibility is actually much greater. 10 in the minimum > possible.. > > Allan > Living Soul > > -----Original Message----- > From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected] > <javascript:>> > To: [email protected] <javascript:> > Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 5:25 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge > > My twisted point was that we as a society or individuals can determine > right from wrong with > Jurisprudence. "Judge not lest ye be judged" refers to condemnation. > > > On Monday, October 20, 2014 7:01:22 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >> >> Judges also mislead juries Tony. I am not sure on Gabby's 'parrot's wee >> I', suspecting much revenge is communal and to do with loss of face, as in >> honour killings and genocides. Judging often lacks judgement in the >> semantics of it all. Some revenge is sweet, as in an England win in the >> coming 4 Nation's Rugby League would be. In RP's moral terms, revenge is >> futile. The word, of course, is slippery. Taking revenge in terms of >> sentencing also carries deterrence. >> >> On Monday, 20 October 2014 21:49:06 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> Gabby have ever considered reading what is said rather than what you >>> appear to want it to say..?¿ >>> >>> It seems a good example of being judgmental. >>> >>> Allan >>> Living Soul >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Gabby <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 8:43 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge >>> >>> Stop barking at my Poly by telling her to pray for the Jesus' One Great >>> God! And keep your 'we' on your baboon hill! >>> >>> Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014 16:47:43 UTC+2 schrieb Allan Heretic: >>>> >>>> Problem with vengeance is not vengeance but judgment. If one looks at >>>> Jesus in the same light as Buddha, both are great teachers in the avatars >>>> category. >>>> Because I am most familiar with Jesus I would like to look at the >>>> prayer he taught.. The first part The greatness of God is acknowledged and >>>> his divine right to rule.. Poly the similarities between Hinduism and >>>> Christianity are surprising once you escape the Dogma and doctrine. >>>> Back to the prayer.. the 2nd you are asking for our needs for the day >>>> be met. The 3rd section we are asking to be judged as we judge others. The >>>> 4th part you are asking not to be lead into trouble.. >>>> What we are interested in is the 3rd part for this discussion. >>>> To be judged by the same standard we judge others by. It is getting >>>> into the karma thing.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Allan >>>> A Living Soul >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: polly skid <[email protected]> >>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 1:50 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge >>>> >>>> Yeah .. the thing is.. we think that some people deserve the hurt they >>>> get... might be from us.. or from someone else... how do we restore >>>> balance.. what intrigues me is forgiveness.. do you think someone can >>>> forgive the murder of their loved one... or some great financial/material >>>> loss... now Gandhi comes to my mind.. i never quite agree with his >>>> thought.. although having been instructed on him since school.. he >>>> believes >>>> the turn the other cheek Christianity virtue... but its just so hard to >>>> conceive... maybe we cant escape our moral judgement world in any way.. >>>> maybe we take revenge becos we think we owe it to ourselves the defense >>>> against wrong.. really confusing stuff all this.. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:23 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chimps do revenge - if you inject one as a vet it will bite you if >>>>> given the chance over the next couple of days. Films give us a sense of >>>>> justice from revenge, though examples I've seen in reality have been >>>>> pathetic and misguided. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 19 October 2014 19:18:30 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem today is there is little to be ashamed about, the >>>>>> mentality seems to lead to what one can get away with. The only shame is >>>>>> in >>>>>> getting caught..:-) >>>>>> >>>>>> That is the political moral standard demonstrated by many >>>>>> politicians, business and religious leaders today. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Allan >>>>>> A Living Soul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:59 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge >>>>>> >>>>>> The moral gauge I suggest to kids is "never do anything you would not >>>>>> want everyone to know about." The age of transparency. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:35:46 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When the blind follow the blind they both will fall into a pit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looking at the justification for moral values little should surprise >>>>>>> anyone. The actions vs talk how can there be morals. I was talking with >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> daughter and she made the comment to me that was an honor yet kind of >>>>>>> strange. When she had a situation that she did not know how to deal >>>>>>> with it >>>>>>> she always asked herself how would my Dad handle it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Who are the moral compasses today? Who are our guides? Or is it >>>>>>> simply does it really matter as all there is what one sees? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>> A Living Soul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:09 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know what percentage of humanity is capable or observing >>>>>>> self and correcting self, but the longer I live, the smaller I think >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> number may be. As I look around, i see so many of the people around me >>>>>>> acting out their emotions (revenge among them) on others. Not always >>>>>>> easy >>>>>>> to see if they know just what they are doing and why. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Complex stuff Pol. I get the feelings, but can't remember doing >>>>>>>> much about them. Politicians raise it in me as soon as their lips >>>>>>>> move. >>>>>>>> So does my grandson (currently idle, smelly teenager), though 'tough >>>>>>>> love' >>>>>>>> doesn't appeal. Academic criticism often feels a form of it and a lot >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> projection and ad hom is involved. In my time, cops used to beat up >>>>>>>> sex >>>>>>>> offenders, largely on the basis the court system didn't work. I used >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> pursue them for other crimes. There is nothing more exhilarating than >>>>>>>> pointing out the flaws in others (from the movie Clerks), a sort of >>>>>>>> revenge. Many lecturing colleagues took revenge out on students - >>>>>>>> education generally looks pretty nasty to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like to think I can walk away from it, as in not retaliating in >>>>>>>> rugby, but I always did within the rules. Human behaviour is so dire >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> might be in a constant state of vendetta. In films the black hats are >>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>> up as so bad they deserve what they get. In reality, we tend to take >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> revenge on powerless victims. Child sexual exploitation may be an >>>>>>>> example. The victim is usually subject to multiple acts of revenge >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> supposedly decent people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, 19 October 2014 12:13:23 UTC+1, pol.science kid wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was on the internet.. and just came across this tv series called >>>>>>>>> "revenge".. and i was thinking... are we capable of not taking >>>>>>>>> revenge.. >>>>>>>>> regarding matters that affect us too deeply... i have pretty mean >>>>>>>>> vengeful >>>>>>>>> feelings when i feel i have been wronged unjustly.. of course when i >>>>>>>>> cant >>>>>>>>> do anything in the situation i act out my revenge mentally.. plan >>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>> to get back to the person ... its quite a revelation when you think >>>>>>>>> yourself quite a decent person.. What do you guys think of revenge.. >>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>> dealt with in every movie and television series or novel.. and of >>>>>>>>> course >>>>>>>>> what our instructive morality from 'elders' says is that do not take >>>>>>>>> revenge.. But i think forgiveness is a capacity.. and we are so >>>>>>>>> inclined >>>>>>>>> for revenge.. Since most of you have pretty varied experience in >>>>>>>>> life.. >>>>>>>>> Have any of you ever taken revenge.. or decided not to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> EverComing >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
