Need to start some where.

All an
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do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others

-----Original Message-----
From: Molly <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Who can we tell?

developing those common standards might be a sticky wicket.  I always 
cringe when asked to be on a committee to review by-laws, and have managed 
to dodge owners associations without exception. Oh the horror.

On Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:46:39 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> There is a lot of major problems world wide. I don't think realistically 
> you can gate an entire town. But an apartment complex can be ..  I think 
> the keys lay within a common moral standards agreement and non ownership.  
> Lack of ownership would allow for removal of those that do not follow the 
> guidelines ... (Unfortunately i do not think a regular hanging of Me or 
> Tony would solve any problems).
>
> All an
> ~~
> do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Who can we tell?
>
> Hanging might be less cruel than suffering some of the cop, social worker 
> and other town hall incompetence.   A lot of the kids lied to me Molly - 
> quite common in abuse cases - over stuff I could check up on.  Some even 
> tried to chat me up etc.  Given we have known forever that many abuse cases 
> are not independently witnessed and victims are incredibly easy to 
> discredit, I'm amazed we don't routinely bug to get independent evidence - 
> I even hid in a wardrobe to get one perp.  Given people catch their nannies 
> doing things wrong on CCTV, you'd think we could work a system out for 
> abuse.
>
> I've often thought we could go back to something more like village life by 
> gating off in our existing towns.
>
> Tony is probably the only one of us who gets hung regularly.
>
> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:09:33 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Good idea Tony, hope you are never the victim. (Hmmm)
>>
>> You have a job i would not envy, times are hard and will be getting 
>> harder.. It seems to me there is an ever increasing desire for war from all 
>> sides.  
>>
>> Been thinking about my dad and the men's coop.  Considering the down 
>> slide in morality, the coop idea might have possibilities especially when 
>> coupled  with a gated community.
>> My idea is the community would be owned by the coop .. ( say a block of 
>> apartments) To become a member of the gated or coop you have to live to a 
>> set of moral commitments. (Including spousal abuse , drug use (guidelines 
>> would need to be developed. (lol right after we hang Tony for something he 
>> might do or could have done..  (",)
>>
>> All an
>> ~~
>> do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 7:21 AM
>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Who can we tell?
>>
>> Iran has seem to have solved the problem by being able to hang the victim.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:40:49 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> BBC's 'Panorama' produced a documentary last night on 'Baby P' - Peter 
>>> Connelly killed at 17 months after much abuse 7 years ago.  The 
>>> perpetrators were jailed, scum of little interest.  There was a serious 
>>> case review, generally a hapless procedure of whitewash here.  It now seems 
>>> this and other reports were a fix to pin blame on social services - in fact 
>>> all agencies involved were useless, social services perhaps less so than 
>>> the politicians and others.  Obviously, no reasonable society would want 
>>> this kind of vicious cover-up at all or not to know what really went on for 
>>> 7 years, given we should want to put things right (the 'learning lessons' 
>>> rhetoric).
>>>
>>> Britain is an intensely secretive society.  I don't even know why we got 
>>> involved in the two world wars, let alone Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and 
>>> Syria.  When I think of Gabby or Germans I have actually met, I have even 
>>> less idea on the world wars.  I doubt ignorance is my problem in this - 
>>> it's just clear the general stuff we are given is bunk.  When one 
>>> researches social issues from war to child abuse, the reality shifts a long 
>>> way from the history of Empire I was taught and the idea our politicians 
>>> and bureaucracy operate in any competent way.
>>>
>>> In another case, in Rotherham, more than 1400 victims of child sexual 
>>> exploitation were further abused by all the services they encountered.  In 
>>> this case, a young, female Home Office researcher had her work destroyed 
>>> and was threatened by two police officers who said they were going to give 
>>> her name and address to the abusers.  There are so many other cases I doubt 
>>> I could finish writing their outline within a couple of days.  This is 
>>> before one thinks about our banks and business practices, and revolting 
>>> breaches of trust by priests, teachers and cops.
>>>
>>> Who can we even tell when it is almost impossible to think of any speedy 
>>> and fair investigations and resolutions - or even admissions of wrong-doing 
>>> by our establishments?  This before you realise cops and other agencies 
>>> quickly brief against victims and other complainants.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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