Gruesome.  

On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:46:10 AM UTC, Molly wrote:
>
> This Craig's List ad trumps any absurd Ferguson observation made so far: 
>  http://stlouis.craigslist.org/sks/4777335634.html  
> <http://stlouis.craigslist.org/sks/4777335634.html> 
>
> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>
>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby.  As for the positive pounding, my 
>> best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a prelude to a few beers. 
>>  Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom madness has troubled me 
>> forever, as I'm sure you know.
>>
>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - something of 
>> a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine Salford Saturday night. 
>>  I guess I could have run away until the pink slime and doughnuts tired him 
>> out and I could get a tow-truck to transport him to the Crescent.  Even 
>> armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks of paper work more than 
>> the odd knife graze.  Quite why cops were supposed to put their bodies on 
>> the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm not sure.
>>
>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other than as Tony 
>> says.  Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty 'racist' to me.  The US 
>> situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - the Catholics had 
>> genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs and lousy treatment. 
>>  These were not addressed directly either.  The investigation into Wilson's 
>> actions look reasonable and speedy compared with here and much more open. 
>>  This seems to no avail.  
>>
>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is knowledge of the 
>> limitations of cops accounts of their shootings on such as the number of 
>> rounds fired and recall ability.  Here our cops are taught to parrot the 
>> Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is aimed and fired with 
>> perfect memory.  And our cops are allowed to refuse to answer questions and 
>> collude on answers.  Thus our cops lie to make their stories look like the 
>> textbook and match each other.  I don't get the logic of 'black guy dead, 
>> burn Tottenham or Ferguson'.  Or that of 'the Establishment is corrupt, 
>> cure this by lynching a cop who has shot a crook'.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>
>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It wasn't.  Change 
>>> the demographics of either the cop or the deceased and this story would not 
>>> have been in the news at all.  The problem is the premiss.  Our system 
>>> allows a Grand Jury to decide if charges are to be rendered.  
>>>
>>> I have been on two Grand Juries and we all took these matters very 
>>> seriously.
>>>
>>

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