Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the mate number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, Neil.
> Am 26.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>: > > Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not keen to > extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, yet these problems > almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to fascist analysis > through slogan. Much of my experience with black people came through cricket > (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or university teacher (as > stupid and unreliable as the rest of the class?). A university friend took > me to his village in what was then Zaire. I can only say any discussion I've > heard on ethnic rights since is so constrained by political correctness > slogans as to be both fascist and based on presenting the face of > Goody-two-shoes. > > Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I feel it is. I'm > amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work with what I've seen of > Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet I always wondered why cops > like me and him had to do the public order thing for the Establishment > without much consideration. This had me defending the right of some Nazi to > parade through Stockport. > > The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds is so dumb > only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. And much as I don't > like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of race explanations. Men > are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make that a gender rights issue!! > > Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush collection. > >> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote: >> Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created by the same >> kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having lost everything with no >> faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The racial divide has played out here >> in many horrendous ways over the years, including a "black power" city >> government being instructed by the mayor to do no business with white owned >> companies. The ethnocentrism was finally the demise of the exclusionary >> government that fell into deep corruption and bankruptcy. I see both sides >> and neither are healthy until the city is seen as a whole including all and >> part of the rest of the world. Through all of it, it has somehow remained a >> driving force in global economy and culture. Tribal societies no longer >> function on large scale and examples of this can be seen all over the world. >> The reluctance of each of us to see beyond color and history lies at the >> heart of the problem. Grace Lee Boggs fascinates me because her story runs >> the gamut of descent, rebel, revolutionary, community leader that unites, >> finding her way from divisive messages to unifying actions. >> >>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator wrote: >>> The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the White House >>> has had little or negative impact on the average black in "Partially United >>> States". The seething rage comes from many, many years of disproportionate >>> treatment and does not need much to surface. >>> >>> I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know >>> unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call police and >>> not looting mobs to come help. >>> >>> Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the happy place >>> of the Great Leader! >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive pounding, my >>>> best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a prelude to a few beers. >>>> Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom madness has troubled me >>>> forever, as I'm sure you know. >>>> >>>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - something of a >>>> mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine Salford Saturday night. I >>>> guess I could have run away until the pink slime and doughnuts tired him >>>> out and I could get a tow-truck to transport him to the Crescent. Even >>>> armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks of paper work more than >>>> the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were supposed to put their bodies on >>>> the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm not sure. >>>> >>>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other than as Tony >>>> says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty 'racist' to me. The US >>>> situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - the Catholics had >>>> genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs and lousy treatment. >>>> These were not addressed directly either. The investigation into Wilson's >>>> actions look reasonable and speedy compared with here and much more open. >>>> This seems to no avail. >>>> >>>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is knowledge of the >>>> limitations of cops accounts of their shootings on such as the number of >>>> rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops are taught to parrot the >>>> Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is aimed and fired >>>> with perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse to answer >>>> questions and collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make their stories >>>> look like the textbook and match each other. I don't get the logic of >>>> 'black guy dead, burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the >>>> Establishment is corrupt, cure this by lynching a cop who has shot a >>>> crook'. >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It wasn't. Change >>>>> the demographics of either the cop or the deceased and this story would >>>>> not have been in the news at all. The problem is the premiss. Our >>>>> system allows a Grand Jury to decide if charges are to be rendered. >>>>> >>>>> I have been on two Grand Juries and we all took these matters very >>>>> seriously. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
