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On Thursday, 27 November 2014 11:18:31 UTC, archytas wrote: > > That's a bit like Wittgenstein's 'putting the question marks in deep > enough' Molly. The lack of recognition of the 'nasty depths' leads to > volleys of artillery from competing moral high grounds, on top of which no > one believes in violence. > > Cops in the UK have to account for every bullet, each shot must be aimed > and fired only in self-defence or to protect the public. This leads our > cops to lie so their stories match the rules of engagement. Wilson's story > would have led to his trial and conviction here - though the legal system > is now so perverse similar bungling at Stockwell did not lead to anyone > being held responsible for shooting Jean Charles Demenzes. We scapegoat > people from time to time is all. My interest is in how we can't get past > "revenge" on poor sods just doing a lousy job and down to the roots Molly > suggests. Yet it seems a whole can of worms needs opening up on our > society before we can start. > > > On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 23:04:26 UTC, Molly wrote: >> >> The unheard rage of those individuals dominated in dire circumstance or >> as a group over the eons is heard in echos in distant news or, for >> sensitive souls, deep within. It is up to each of us to find that place of >> hate and violence within us, and move beyond it into peace. Until we do, >> railing against a machine that churns out horror will do no good. >> >> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:25:33 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>> >>> No sense, anyone, of Ferguson and the wider protests as an American >>> spring? >>> >>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:41:15 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> No Idea what the male number is Gabby - is it a bit like the opposite >>>> of what those women hanging around newsrooms do? I am male I'm afraid, so >>>> am stuck with such as my feet not being the first thing I see looking down >>>> in the shower. Of course, I'm old enough now to be more concerned about >>>> keeping my feet working. For the record, the thinking itself >>>> indestructible younger me would have taken on Mike Brown going forward, >>>> believing some young big punk couldn't hack a fit rugby league player half >>>> his size. Sorry to be so shrill my dear. I never made new man status, >>>> believing women capable of seeing through such crude deceptions, even as >>>> they fell wildly under the strategy. We might consider what the reaction >>>> would have been had Brown been shot by an 8 stone female cop like my >>>> ex-partner Mary. I'll get back in the kitchen and shut the door so you >>>> can't hear me being shrill then me dear. At least you are admitting we >>>> men >>>> can count these days, even if we do our number in shrill voice. >>>> *Je vous adresse mon très amical souvenir c**haleureusement, comme >>>> meme.* >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:21:40 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the mate >>>>> number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, Neil. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 26.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not keen to >>>>> extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, yet these >>>>> problems almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to fascist >>>>> analysis through slogan. Much of my experience with black people came >>>>> through cricket (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or >>>>> university teacher (as stupid and unreliable as the rest of the class?). >>>>> A >>>>> university friend took me to his village in what was then Zaire. I can >>>>> only say any discussion I've heard on ethnic rights since is so >>>>> constrained >>>>> by political correctness slogans as to be both fascist and based on >>>>> presenting the face of Goody-two-shoes. >>>>> >>>>> Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I feel it >>>>> is. I'm amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work with what I've >>>>> seen of Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet I always >>>>> wondered >>>>> why cops like me and him had to do the public order thing for the >>>>> Establishment without much consideration. This had me defending the >>>>> right >>>>> of some Nazi to parade through Stockport. >>>>> >>>>> The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds is so >>>>> dumb only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. And much as >>>>> I >>>>> don't like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of race >>>>> explanations. >>>>> Men are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make that a gender rights >>>>> issue!! >>>>> >>>>> Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush >>>>> collection. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created by the >>>>>> same kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having lost everything >>>>>> with no faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The racial divide has >>>>>> played >>>>>> out here in many horrendous ways over the years, including a "black >>>>>> power" >>>>>> city government being instructed by the mayor to do no business with >>>>>> white >>>>>> owned companies. The ethnocentrism was finally the demise of the >>>>>> exclusionary government that fell into deep corruption and bankruptcy. I >>>>>> see both sides and neither are healthy until the city is seen as a whole >>>>>> including all and part of the rest of the world. Through all of it, it >>>>>> has >>>>>> somehow remained a driving force in global economy and culture. Tribal >>>>>> societies no longer function on large scale and examples of this can be >>>>>> seen all over the world. The reluctance of each of us to see beyond >>>>>> color >>>>>> and history lies at the heart of the problem. Grace Lee Boggs fascinates >>>>>> me >>>>>> because her story runs the gamut of descent, rebel, revolutionary, >>>>>> community leader that unites, finding her way from divisive messages to >>>>>> unifying actions. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the White >>>>>>> House has had little or negative impact on the average black in >>>>>>> "Partially >>>>>>> United States". The seething rage comes from many, many years of >>>>>>> disproportionate treatment and does not need much to surface. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know >>>>>>> unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call police >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> not looting mobs to come help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the happy >>>>>>> place of the Great Leader! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive pounding, >>>>>>>> my best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a prelude to a few >>>>>>>> beers. >>>>>>>> Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom madness has >>>>>>>> troubled me >>>>>>>> forever, as I'm sure you know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - >>>>>>>> something of a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine Salford >>>>>>>> Saturday night. I guess I could have run away until the pink slime >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> doughnuts tired him out and I could get a tow-truck to transport him >>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>> Crescent. Even armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks of >>>>>>>> paper >>>>>>>> work more than the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were supposed to >>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>> their bodies on the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm not >>>>>>>> sure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other than as >>>>>>>> Tony says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty 'racist' to me. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> US situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - the Catholics >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs and lousy >>>>>>>> treatment. >>>>>>>> These were not addressed directly either. The investigation into >>>>>>>> Wilson's >>>>>>>> actions look reasonable and speedy compared with here and much more >>>>>>>> open. >>>>>>>> This seems to no avail. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is knowledge of >>>>>>>> the limitations of cops accounts of their shootings on such as the >>>>>>>> number >>>>>>>> of rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops are taught to >>>>>>>> parrot the >>>>>>>> Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is aimed and fired >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse to answer >>>>>>>> questions and >>>>>>>> collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make their stories look like >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> textbook and match each other. I don't get the logic of 'black guy >>>>>>>> dead, >>>>>>>> burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the Establishment is >>>>>>>> corrupt, >>>>>>>> cure this by lynching a cop who has shot a crook'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It wasn't. >>>>>>>>> Change the demographics of either the cop or the deceased and this >>>>>>>>> story >>>>>>>>> would not have been in the news at all. The problem is the premiss. >>>>>>>>> Our >>>>>>>>> system allows a Grand Jury to decide if charges are to be rendered. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been on two Grand Juries and we all took these matters very >>>>>>>>> seriously. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
