Yes, Mr Heretic, I understand. Now, how effective do you think it is to tell Molly not to think in pink bubbles?
Am Donnerstag, 27. November 2014 schrieb : > لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين > Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others > > A start , from there you need cooperation, all souls know the guidelines > of do no harm, but do people listen, to that the answer is yes they do. > They listen only to what they want to hear and what benefits them. The > Gospel of Woe is well sung and recited daily. The problem with version of > life's view is it gives no answers that provide direction. > > Oh Woe is me echoes through out the world. There are many gospels but I am > thinking that one is the most widely followed! > > And for you Gabby I am not sure on the accuracy of the translation: nicht > Mord, Vergewaltigung, Versklavung oder andere schädigen. > > لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين > Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> > To: [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri > > The unheard rage of those individuals dominated in dire circumstance or as > a group over the eons is heard in echos in distant news or, for sensitive > souls, deep within. It is up to each of us to find that place of hate and > violence within us, and move beyond it into peace. Until we do, railing > against a machine that churns out horror will do no good. > > On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:25:33 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >> >> No sense, anyone, of Ferguson and the wider protests as an American >> spring? >> >> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:41:15 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>> >>> No Idea what the male number is Gabby - is it a bit like the opposite of >>> what those women hanging around newsrooms do? I am male I'm afraid, so am >>> stuck with such as my feet not being the first thing I see looking down in >>> the shower. Of course, I'm old enough now to be more concerned about >>> keeping my feet working. For the record, the thinking itself >>> indestructible younger me would have taken on Mike Brown going forward, >>> believing some young big punk couldn't hack a fit rugby league player half >>> his size. Sorry to be so shrill my dear. I never made new man status, >>> believing women capable of seeing through such crude deceptions, even as >>> they fell wildly under the strategy. We might consider what the reaction >>> would have been had Brown been shot by an 8 stone female cop like my >>> ex-partner Mary. I'll get back in the kitchen and shut the door so you >>> can't hear me being shrill then me dear. At least you are admitting we men >>> can count these days, even if we do our number in shrill voice. >>> *Je vous adresse mon très amical souvenir c**haleureusement, comme >>> meme.* >>> >>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:21:40 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>> >>>> Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the mate >>>> number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, Neil. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 26.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb archytas <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>: >>>> >>>> Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not keen to >>>> extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, yet these >>>> problems almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to fascist >>>> analysis through slogan. Much of my experience with black people came >>>> through cricket (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or >>>> university teacher (as stupid and unreliable as the rest of the class?). A >>>> university friend took me to his village in what was then Zaire. I can >>>> only say any discussion I've heard on ethnic rights since is so constrained >>>> by political correctness slogans as to be both fascist and based on >>>> presenting the face of Goody-two-shoes. >>>> >>>> Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I feel it >>>> is. I'm amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work with what I've >>>> seen of Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet I always wondered >>>> why cops like me and him had to do the public order thing for the >>>> Establishment without much consideration. This had me defending the right >>>> of some Nazi to parade through Stockport. >>>> >>>> The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds is so >>>> dumb only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. And much as I >>>> don't like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of race >>>> explanations. Men are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make that a >>>> gender rights issue!! >>>> >>>> Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush >>>> collection. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created by the >>>>> same kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having lost everything >>>>> with no faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The racial divide has >>>>> played >>>>> out here in many horrendous ways over the years, including a "black power" >>>>> city government being instructed by the mayor to do no business with white >>>>> owned companies. The ethnocentrism was finally the demise of the >>>>> exclusionary government that fell into deep corruption and bankruptcy. I >>>>> see both sides and neither are healthy until the city is seen as a whole >>>>> including all and part of the rest of the world. Through all of it, it >>>>> has >>>>> somehow remained a driving force in global economy and culture. Tribal >>>>> societies no longer function on large scale and examples of this can be >>>>> seen all over the world. The reluctance of each of us to see beyond color >>>>> and history lies at the heart of the problem. Grace Lee Boggs fascinates >>>>> me >>>>> because her story runs the gamut of descent, rebel, revolutionary, >>>>> community leader that unites, finding her way from divisive messages to >>>>> unifying actions. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the White >>>>>> House has had little or negative impact on the average black in >>>>>> "Partially >>>>>> United States". The seething rage comes from many, many years of >>>>>> disproportionate treatment and does not need much to surface. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know >>>>>> unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call police >>>>>> and >>>>>> not looting mobs to come help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the happy >>>>>> place of the Great Leader! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive pounding, >>>>>>> my best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a prelude to a few >>>>>>> beers. Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom madness has >>>>>>> troubled me forever, as I'm sure you know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - >>>>>>> something of a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine Salford >>>>>>> Saturday night. I guess I could have run away until the pink slime and >>>>>>> doughnuts tired him out and I could get a tow-truck to transport him to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Crescent. Even armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks of >>>>>>> paper >>>>>>> work more than the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were supposed to put >>>>>>> their bodies on the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm not sure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other than as >>>>>>> Tony says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty 'racist' to me. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> US situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - the Catholics had >>>>>>> genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs and lousy treatment. >>>>>>> These were not addressed directly either. The investigation into >>>>>>> Wilson's >>>>>>> actions look reasonable and speedy compared with here and much more >>>>>>> open. >>>>>>> This seems to no avail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is knowledge of >>>>>>> the limitations of cops accounts of their shootings on such as the >>>>>>> number >>>>>>> of rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops are taught to parrot >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is aimed and fired >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse to answer questions >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make their stories look like >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> textbook and match each other. I don't get the logic of 'black guy >>>>>>> dead, >>>>>>> burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the Establishment is corrupt, >>>>>>> cure this by lynching a cop who has shot a crook'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It wasn't. >>>>>>>> Change the demographics of either the cop or the deceased and this >>>>>>>> story >>>>>>>> would not have been in the news at all. The problem is the premiss. >>>>>>>> Our >>>>>>>> system allows a Grand Jury to decide if charges are to be rendered. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been on two Grand Juries and we all took these matters very >>>>>>>> seriously. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>> topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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