Sometimes I think we can only see ourselves in how we stack up against our judgment of others, an outside in perspective, and maybe, at the heart of what Rilke mentions here. I wonder if the fear of taking a good honest look at oneself is a typically western cultural construct, or simply a human journey roadblock.
On Sunday, December 7, 2014 10:12:29 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: > > The New Agers were all over Rilke and my Persian poet like a rash in the > past - though the latter may have written in Greek patois. Tgat egat sig > probably appeared in his text, meaning the sound made after watching German > opera. René Karl Wilhelm Johann Josef Maria Rilke - Rumi had a long name > too and was into the simultaneous destruction and recreation of the soul. > A bit of poetry is good for people who can't do science. At least Rumi > might offer Whirling Dervishes rather than interminable opera about heroes > buried in acorns for us to recover from poetry reading. I like a lot of > Sufi ideas. > > I actually have a lot in common with RP's 'conservatism'. "Love consists > in this, that two solitudes protect and touch and greet each other" (Rilke > from Brainyquote). These days safe sex has lost the gentle touch of > romance and loyalty (maybe autism) and become disease prevention. Yet are > we to look down on the promiscuous? > > > On Sunday, December 7, 2014 8:31:52 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Fortunately for us a pendulum swing eventually reverses direction. I >> think it is everones responsibility to change responsibly. Our souls owe >> that to humanity. >> >> I know Gabby does not like my sig shit in view of her eye candy.. tgat >> is tough shit as it us doing exactly egat I intended it to do .. it is my >> simple attempt to change away from the pendulum swing toward violence >> toward others. The best way of leadership lies in ones actions. >> >> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 8:48 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: the law of our own growth >> >> Oppression of women is decidedly wrong , but for a married person to fall >> in love with another is not character. You fall in love with a girl and >> marry her then you fall in love with another woman , divorce your wife and >> marry again or just have an extra-marital affair is decidedly wrong. Even >> if your wife is ordinary in body and mind you still owe her loyalty and >> respect. There is no dearth of beautiful people , >> but to love and respect your own partner even of ordinary countenance is >> character. To be faithful to your society is character and if there are >> shortcomings in your society you should try to remove them and that is what >> has been done by great people in all societies. Even ordinary people can >> try to remove the abuses in their society according to their capabilities , >> and to convert to other religions is escaping the duty of bettering your >> society. You owe your family and society a duty to work for its betterment >> and to convert is escaping from that duty. >> >> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:55 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Once the realization is accepted that even between the closest human >>> beings infinite distances continue, a wonderful living side by side can >>> grow, if they succeed in loving the distance between them which makes it >>> possible for each to see the other whole against the sky. Fancy something >>> a little different then Tony? Shall we 'admire' men who want women to live >>> in black bags? Flowers rarely ask tough questions - Rilke was one. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:27:22 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>> >>>> Healthy growth also requires a time or doing nothing. >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
