Violence lies deep and may be as difficult as Gabby's cryptic absurdity. 
 Against the deep green standard we probably inflict it driving to work, 
before any road rage grips.  There's endless philosophy on the violence of 
pen scratching paper and Nietzsche's highly unoriginal dive into the molten 
furnace of reality, only to return to masses that will not listen. 
 Fascism's classic is the slogan, issued over and again because the public 
has endless ability to forget and is confused and probably revolted by 
multi-faceted argument.  Resistance is often banal, like the furtive 
posting of Samizdat, yet the police state is absurdly gathering our 
underwear into airtight jars for the dogs to sniff before being set on our 
trail (a Stasi trick).  Visits from female friends, spied behind the moving 
curtain next door, turn one's neighbour into the dreadful seditious lesbian 
dragged away by the Gestapo.  Big Brother is built on petty informing and 
the suppression of any right to be heard other than in his socially 
approved hygiene.  Those pesky, bastard freedom fighters - turned 
rent-a-mob-professional-protesters - made me late for work and spoiled the 
view.  Who will be left to express the right to be heard when they come for 
Molly and Tony?  Their protests will be heard, but we will all know how to 
listen to these "professional protesters" by then.

Rights are too slippery to define, either in terms of us having them or 
not.  Does the foetus have a right to life or the woman the right not have 
the rapist's child?  My answer favours the woman's choice, but does not 
address the issues of the sanctity of life.  It doesn't get much easier on 
the right to be heard either.   Do we not want abused kids to have the 
right to be heard?  This doesn't stop Molly and Tony having points here - 
though one guesses we have to hear them, even if they don't have the crude 
insistence of the mob blocking my bus.

There is very little I want to listen to, so I make a poor advocate for any 
right to be heard.  Most organisation of being heard seems little to do 
with rights anyway.  Hitler was good at organising being heard speaking 
dreck.  The television speaks through a thousand channels with nothing on. 
 What could ever be listening, if it listens to such as this, to be worth 
uttering voice to?  Build a holy tower bigger than this Tony!

I suspect the right to be heard has been usurped, suggesting I think there 
is one.  We do it in classrooms, ostensibly so our good sense can be 
imparted without being drowned by gossip.  Gabby has found splendid new 
ways never to listen on the grounds she hasn't worked out where she wants 
to start talking from, though overcome by smell wherever she happens not to 
want to say what she means to oafish ears unworthy of the endless deferment 
of origin on what she might say later.*  This I can understand, in the 
sense of 'no need to listen'.  Sharing some of Molly's view from the office 
and Tony's ire that a bunch of protesters is preventing timely delivery of 
his apple core to my ants, I'm inclined to think we have lost the plot on 
how to shake ourselves out of virtual reality,  Outbreaks of 
wet-fish-slappy-to-the-face-dancing might help more.

We're going to war.  Who amongst those of us surviving will be first to say 
they saw it coming and meant to do something about it?  They won't make the 
mistake of having a draft this time and will recruit volunteers from mass 
poverty.  

*The German word for this sentence actually has more letters in it, so 
something may be lost in translation..

On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:27:34 PM UTC, Molly wrote:
>
> I completely agree.
>
> On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:49:21 AM UTC-5, facilitator wrote:
>>
>> Part of the problem is people confuse the right to speak with the right 
>> to be heard.  If they feel their right to be heard is not being perceived 
>> then the volume is increased using the violence button.
>>
>> People do not have a right to be heard.  Or even to stop the traffic of 
>> others till they are seen.
>>
>>
>>>>  

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