Not possible to argue against that Tony - at least in the sense I admire 
the story and could see myself doing the same as you - indeed, a grandchild 
fits the theme here.  I was abroad at the time and may have stopped the 
father (I might still be doing the time), but had I done so there would be 
no young boy my daughter dotes upon.

Of course, there are arguments against what you say, both in terms of 
women's rights and who should pay (prevention of back-street abortions 
etc.) - these are too well rehearsed to bother with.  My position in these 
has much to do with the practical squalor I witnessed as a cop and fear the 
libertarian in me is impositional on others.  Tails chase and keep 
philosophers in cheese and biscuits.  None of this prevents me feeling 
admiration for what you chose to do.

My government, with EU approval, has chosen to leave immigrants drowning in 
the sea 'pour encourager les autres' not to come.  I could not do that 
myself.  I would not stop a woman having an abortion and would want her to 
get the best 'treatment' possible, yet what if this was my child?  God it's 
tough.

Much love to you and your family.  Your art touches me and it;s good to 
know an artist can be so morally decent.  Is this 'allowed'?

Neil



On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:45:54 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>
> "Rights are too slippery to define, either in terms of us having them or 
> not.  Does the foetus have a right to life or the woman the right not have 
> the rapist's child?  My answer favours the woman's choice, but does not 
> address the issues of the sanctity of life.  It doesn't get much easier on 
> the right to be heard either."
>
> It is not the "Rapist's child".  It is simply, a child.  No person born to 
> this date had the ability to choose their parent(s).  In this country a 
> woman has the right to murder her unborn children.  I am not that woman and 
> cannot make that choice for her but I do not appreciate the government 
> telling me I must pay for it.
>
> Two of my children were the result of rape.  It was against all odds, 
> family and societal pressures that these young women decided to give birth 
> to the second victim of that rape.  I am very thankful they did.  They were 
> also born interracial and I am very thankful for that as well.  When the 
> other five couples ahead of us on the list heard that the forthcoming child 
> might be "Black" they backed out.  We got him instead and the irony is he 
> is blond and blue with perfect Afro features.  My daughter is a beautiful 
> Ebony with caucasian features.  Unfortunately the "Pro-choice" people only 
> seem to give the woman one choice.  
>
> With all of the tensions going on over here about "Black vs White" I am 
> thankful I have chosen to be in the gray area.  Accepting neither.
>

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