“Democracy was supposed to champion freedom of speech, and yet the simple rules of table decorum could clamp down on the rights their forefathers had fought and died for.” ― E.A. Bucchianeri, Brushstrokes of a Gadfly
On Thursday, December 25, 2014 3:19:17 AM UTC, archytas wrote: > > My cat is a goddess. One needs dogs to maintain the balance of power. > When you put he, she or it together you get hesheorit, the technical term > for rocking horse droppings (it works when you say it). > > There are questions about whether god has free will. Once you are good > and know everything, what choice is left? The Hindu urging is not towards > fatalism - at least as I understand it in ignorance, trips to Wiki and > chats with my mate Lal. The "saint", of course, is never free to choose, > as she suffers no temptation to be bad. In western philosophy we tend to > consider self-mastery (gender again) and rightly ordered appetite as a > category of free will discussion - all categories being subject to optimism > and pessimism. > > We have a female Bishop in Anglican stuff here. This is good, yet I see > freedom in an absence of bishops. Freedom is freedom to and freedom from > at the same time. The self is always late in time, weirdly disjointed from > it. Many of our words suffer something similar.losing meaning in > over-definition. "Choice" is presumably as aspect of free will, yet what > choice is there when there are no alternatives, or false ones of a thousand > channels of tat to "choose" from and the off button (maybe to never switch > on again?) and chronically corrupt political parties to "vote for". > > We can choose to leave the human hive, but do we then survive as human? > The ant and bee die. Omega pack animals put up with awful treatment > rather than be isolated. What of the slave making free choices? > > On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:55:43 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> True. >> >> ~~ >> لا القتل، والاغتصاب أو استعباد الآخرين >> Do not murder, rape or enslave others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: polly skid <[email protected]> >> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:53 >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Freedom >> >> God is a furry kitty.... >> >> On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 1:20 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Actually I agree with the Hindu belief that every comes from and >>> returns to the uncreated God (by whatever name you know God the uncreated). >>> It is true everything and everyone is made of the essence of God. That make >>> everything and everyone are interconnected no matter which reality . >>> >>> Just because you (no matter of how you conceive yourself) are made >>> entirely of the essence of the uncreated God ... it does not make you a >>> god. >>> >>> ~~ >>> لا القتل، والاغتصاب أو استعباد الآخرين >>> Do not murder, rape or enslave others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 18:15 >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Freedom >>> >>> God is not only in me He is in everyone and as we are all separate from >>> each other God becomes He and not me . If God were the innermost being of >>> me >>> alone , then he wouldn't be he but me. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:36 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Technically, everything that we do or is done is in the past. There is >>>> no present because of the "uncuttable piece" of time. No matter how you >>>> split a nanosecond it doesn't exist in the present. You can only measure >>>> its passing. >>>> >>>> Back to topic: >>>> Predetermination requires structure. Structure requires absolutes. >>>> The only absolute is entropy. So all things change. Freedom is only a >>>> mental construct based on perception. I am not free to fly. >>>> >>>> I agree that it is up to us to remove negative feelings. But anger is >>>> also a right. If God is in each of us why do you refer to God as "He"? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:36:51 PM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Though everything is predetermined we are completely free. It is up to >>>>> us to remove negative feelings from our hearts and keep good feelings and >>>>> emotions , it is up to us to change our attitudes and thinking and act >>>>> and >>>>> behave in a rational and humanitarian way. Although God is our innermost >>>>> Being , He is so also of all of us and thus separate from us as we are >>>>> all >>>>> separate from each other , and as such it is our choice to keep faith in >>>>> him and not lose hope even in the most dire circumstances. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> EverComing >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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