You know, in the end Chris, Charlie gets right up one's nose ... On Sunday, 18 January 2015 19:11:15 UTC, archytas wrote: > > We are more like amoeba or slime moulds. Tony would admit this, if he > thought the sculptures would sell. There are times in their lifehistory > that are not so unidimensional. Smarter than humans in cooperative > matters, they also don't but art or heroic literature. No wonder they have > us preparing the planet to be more suitable for themselves. > > On Sunday, 18 January 2015 17:34:57 UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: >> >> I think perhaps with a minor adjustment of the quotes, that phrase is >> perfect: >> >> We are the larva "teaching" the larva how to fly. >> >> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:33 AM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree Chris, "We are the larva teaching the larva how to fly" (™) >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 12:12:06 AM UTC-5, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>> >>>> We humans have always had a terrible problem with calculating scale. >>>> We're utterly irrational and hopelessly subjective. Even when we attempt >>>> to >>>> shape our world view via humanism and logic, we fall prey to insidious >>>> prejudices few of us are able to even detect well. We think we're much >>>> smarter than we are, and it's only by growing older and expanding our time >>>> scope that we're capable of beginning to understand how limited our view >>>> always was the minute before. Most of us don't live long enough to ever >>>> really accomplish anything remotely like an objective view point. >>>> >>>> And so, we fear plane crashes, and not car crashes, despite the latter >>>> vastly outnumbering the former. We say "je suis charlie" for the 12, and >>>> pass by the thousands dead. We only care when the PR machine snaps a >>>> gorgeous tragedy and Buzzfeed includes it in "Top 5 Photos From World >>>> Conflicts: You won't believe number 4!". >>>> >>>> When one person dies, it's a tragedy, but when a million people die >>>> it's a statistic. Stalin said that. Remarkable bit of insight from someone >>>> who created some notable statistics. >>>> >>>> We Americans are terrible with statistics. We're smart enough to know >>>> that they're a weapon to bludgeon the less Google savvy, and we pick and >>>> choose to suit our bigotry. Then once a year we pour ice water over our >>>> heads while hash tagging #Kony2012. Verily Babylon has fallen. >>>> >>>> Hello, Minds Eye. I've missed you. Neil's been commenting on my G+ >>>> posts, and it put me of a mind to come see how the group's been. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 10:29:52 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Killing cartoonists clearly can't be allowed. There is no absolute >>>>> authority for jihad, crusades or lacking a self-depreciating sense of >>>>> humour prepared to rip loved ones from the lives of relatives and >>>>> friends. >>>>> The most common 'cause' of killing and war in primitive societies is >>>>> revenge, generally pretty dumb. >>>>> >>>>> On the day Charlie Hebdo was struck, Boko Haram was doing much worse >>>>> in Nigeria and 2000 died. Yemen was pasted again. 25 million or so have >>>>> died in wars after WW2 and any number of people have had peaceful lives >>>>> destroyed by various forms of imperialism. We understand revenge films >>>>> where the child not slaughtered by Barbarians grows to destroy them. >>>>> There >>>>> are at least questions we should be asking on whether fundamentalist >>>>> Islam >>>>> is radicalising terrorists, or the various imperialisms and the >>>>> conditions >>>>> these create in countries kept poor and run by installed despots. >>>>> >>>>> Institutional religion is no use to me and I detest the hostility of >>>>> those believers who would have me respect belief in superstition,clearly >>>>> false history, varieties of justified sexism, racism, apartheid and >>>>> selfish >>>>> chosen-peopleism. This extends far beyond religion and to false ideas >>>>> that >>>>> the Greek Enlightenment was the zenith of civilisation. This was a >>>>> sexist, >>>>> racist, slave economy. Western democratic free trade liberalism is such >>>>> a >>>>> lie as to be merely another control fraud, not the end of history. >>>>> >>>>> There is little clarity. We stand as Charlie for free speech, yet do >>>>> nothing against indecent Saudi floggings and beheadings. We have never >>>>> produced democratic foreign policy, population control or sustained >>>>> peace. >>>>> Now we are arresting people protesting publicly against Charlie, somewhat >>>>> contradictory to say the least. All that seems clear is that we are all >>>>> Charleys, without much of a system to openly discuss what is wrong, >>>>> leaving >>>>> tyranny anywhere a threat to freedom everywhere. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >>
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