I think perhaps with a minor adjustment of the quotes, that phrase is
perfect:

We are the larva "teaching" the larva how to fly.

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:33 AM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree Chris, "We are the larva teaching the larva how to fly" (™)
>
>
> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 12:12:06 AM UTC-5, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>
>> We humans have always had a terrible problem with calculating scale.
>> We're utterly irrational and hopelessly subjective. Even when we attempt to
>> shape our world view via humanism and logic, we fall prey to insidious
>> prejudices few of us are able to even detect well. We think we're much
>> smarter than we are, and it's only by growing older and expanding our time
>> scope that we're capable of beginning to understand how limited our view
>> always was the minute before. Most of us don't live long enough to ever
>> really accomplish anything remotely like an objective view point.
>>
>> And so, we fear plane crashes, and not car crashes, despite the latter
>> vastly outnumbering the former. We say "je suis charlie" for the 12, and
>> pass by the thousands dead. We only care when the PR machine snaps a
>> gorgeous tragedy and Buzzfeed includes it in "Top 5 Photos From World
>> Conflicts: You won't believe number 4!".
>>
>> When one person dies, it's a tragedy, but when a million people die it's
>> a statistic. Stalin said that. Remarkable bit of insight from someone who
>> created some notable statistics.
>>
>> We Americans are terrible with statistics. We're smart enough to know
>> that they're a weapon to bludgeon the less Google savvy, and we pick and
>> choose to suit our bigotry. Then once a year we pour ice water over our
>> heads while hash tagging #Kony2012. Verily Babylon has fallen.
>>
>> Hello, Minds Eye. I've missed you. Neil's been commenting on my G+ posts,
>> and it put me of a mind to come see how the group's been.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 10:29:52 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> Killing cartoonists clearly can't be allowed.  There is no absolute
>>> authority for jihad, crusades or lacking a self-depreciating sense of
>>> humour prepared to rip loved ones from the lives of relatives and friends.
>>> The most common 'cause' of killing and war in primitive societies is
>>> revenge, generally pretty dumb.
>>>
>>> On the day Charlie Hebdo was struck, Boko Haram was doing much worse in
>>> Nigeria and 2000 died.  Yemen was pasted again.  25 million or so have died
>>> in wars after WW2 and any number of people have had peaceful lives
>>> destroyed by various forms of imperialism.  We understand revenge films
>>> where the child not slaughtered by Barbarians grows to destroy them.  There
>>> are at least questions we should be asking on whether fundamentalist Islam
>>> is radicalising terrorists, or the various imperialisms and the conditions
>>> these create in countries kept poor and run by installed despots.
>>>
>>> Institutional religion is no use to me and I detest the hostility of
>>> those believers who would have me respect belief in superstition,clearly
>>> false history, varieties of justified sexism, racism, apartheid and selfish
>>> chosen-peopleism.  This extends far beyond religion and to false ideas that
>>> the Greek Enlightenment was the zenith of civilisation. This was a sexist,
>>> racist, slave economy.  Western democratic free trade liberalism is such a
>>> lie as to be merely another control fraud, not the end of history.
>>>
>>> There is little clarity.  We stand as Charlie for free speech, yet do
>>> nothing against indecent Saudi floggings and beheadings. We have never
>>> produced democratic foreign policy, population control or sustained peace.
>>> Now we are arresting people protesting publicly against Charlie, somewhat
>>> contradictory to say the least.  All that seems clear is that we are all
>>> Charleys, without much of a system to openly discuss what is wrong, leaving
>>> tyranny anywhere a threat to freedom everywhere.
>>>
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