My opinion of that.. not much more than a photo op.. good publicist at work.
The march it self was real high jacked by politicians. تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: archytas <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 9:34 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: So what's wrong with je suis charlie? Rumours abound that the solidarity pic with all the worthies at the head of the main demo was false. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-17/truth-behind-cherlie-hebdo-solidarity-photo-op The worthies were filmed separately and cut and pasted in. On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 7:12:38 PM UTC, archytas wrote: > > You know, in the end Chris, Charlie gets right up one's nose ... > > On Sunday, 18 January 2015 19:11:15 UTC, archytas wrote: >> >> We are more like amoeba or slime moulds. Tony would admit this, if he >> thought the sculptures would sell. There are times in their lifehistory >> that are not so unidimensional. Smarter than humans in cooperative >> matters, they also don't but art or heroic literature. No wonder they have >> us preparing the planet to be more suitable for themselves. >> >> On Sunday, 18 January 2015 17:34:57 UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>> >>> I think perhaps with a minor adjustment of the quotes, that phrase is >>> perfect: >>> >>> We are the larva "teaching" the larva how to fly. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:33 AM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree Chris, "We are the larva teaching the larva how to fly" (™) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 12:12:06 AM UTC-5, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We humans have always had a terrible problem with calculating scale. >>>>> We're utterly irrational and hopelessly subjective. Even when we attempt >>>>> to >>>>> shape our world view via humanism and logic, we fall prey to insidious >>>>> prejudices few of us are able to even detect well. We think we're much >>>>> smarter than we are, and it's only by growing older and expanding our >>>>> time >>>>> scope that we're capable of beginning to understand how limited our view >>>>> always was the minute before. Most of us don't live long enough to ever >>>>> really accomplish anything remotely like an objective view point. >>>>> >>>>> And so, we fear plane crashes, and not car crashes, despite the latter >>>>> vastly outnumbering the former. We say "je suis charlie" for the 12, and >>>>> pass by the thousands dead. We only care when the PR machine snaps a >>>>> gorgeous tragedy and Buzzfeed includes it in "Top 5 Photos From World >>>>> Conflicts: You won't believe number 4!". >>>>> >>>>> When one person dies, it's a tragedy, but when a million people die >>>>> it's a statistic. Stalin said that. Remarkable bit of insight from >>>>> someone >>>>> who created some notable statistics. >>>>> >>>>> We Americans are terrible with statistics. We're smart enough to know >>>>> that they're a weapon to bludgeon the less Google savvy, and we pick and >>>>> choose to suit our bigotry. Then once a year we pour ice water over our >>>>> heads while hash tagging #Kony2012. Verily Babylon has fallen. >>>>> >>>>> Hello, Minds Eye. I've missed you. Neil's been commenting on my G+ >>>>> posts, and it put me of a mind to come see how the group's been. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 10:29:52 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Killing cartoonists clearly can't be allowed. There is no absolute >>>>>> authority for jihad, crusades or lacking a self-depreciating sense of >>>>>> humour prepared to rip loved ones from the lives of relatives and >>>>>> friends. >>>>>> The most common 'cause' of killing and war in primitive societies is >>>>>> revenge, generally pretty dumb. >>>>>> >>>>>> On the day Charlie Hebdo was struck, Boko Haram was doing much worse >>>>>> in Nigeria and 2000 died. Yemen was pasted again. 25 million or so >>>>>> have >>>>>> died in wars after WW2 and any number of people have had peaceful lives >>>>>> destroyed by various forms of imperialism. We understand revenge films >>>>>> where the child not slaughtered by Barbarians grows to destroy them. >>>>>> There >>>>>> are at least questions we should be asking on whether fundamentalist >>>>>> Islam >>>>>> is radicalising terrorists, or the various imperialisms and the >>>>>> conditions >>>>>> these create in countries kept poor and run by installed despots. >>>>>> >>>>>> Institutional religion is no use to me and I detest the hostility of >>>>>> those believers who would have me respect belief in superstition,clearly >>>>>> false history, varieties of justified sexism, racism, apartheid and >>>>>> selfish >>>>>> chosen-peopleism. This extends far beyond religion and to false ideas >>>>>> that >>>>>> the Greek Enlightenment was the zenith of civilisation. This was a >>>>>> sexist, >>>>>> racist, slave economy. Western democratic free trade liberalism is such >>>>>> a >>>>>> lie as to be merely another control fraud, not the end of history. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is little clarity. We stand as Charlie for free speech, yet do >>>>>> nothing against indecent Saudi floggings and beheadings. We have never >>>>>> produced democratic foreign policy, population control or sustained >>>>>> peace. >>>>>> Now we are arresting people protesting publicly against Charlie, >>>>>> somewhat >>>>>> contradictory to say the least. All that seems clear is that we are all >>>>>> Charleys, without much of a system to openly discuss what is wrong, >>>>>> leaving >>>>>> tyranny anywhere a threat to freedom everywhere. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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