If one of our old members, Pat, was here, he'd be straight into his 
favourite 'string theory' from physics on mention of spaghetti.  It' still 
a sortable or at least eatable mess in my view.  I can't think of 
consciousness these days without some kind of spaghetti-like web - yet we 
don't seem to have control over the processes that matter, other than in 
the hands of people and seeming inevitability we don't want.  Dogs now on 
their marks, so must go.  Good to see you here.

On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:57:20 AM UTC, Sue Linda wrote:
>
> I agree Archytas.  A bowel of spaghetti noodles. 
>
> On 1/31/15, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > Considering children as our teachers sounds very interesting.  In a 
> sense, 
> > literature has done some of this with the 'noble savage' theme - though 
> > anthropology tells us primitive societies are very violent, even when we 
> > factor war into ours.  Kids enjoying each other, like my dogs meeting 
> their 
> > 
> > pals in the park, always moves me. 'Buster' is a particular friend of my 
> > two.  One has to do something to organise children's play (and the 
> dogs') 
> > and eliminate obvious dangers.  This includes difficult reasoning on not 
> > over-supervising.  We make provision for the future, rather than live 
> every 
> > 
> > day as it comes.  I think we have become neurotic on how we do this and 
> > should be providing security in order that we can be more in the moment 
> and 
> > 
> > not worrying so much.  Sadly, much living in the moment is consumed with 
> > the wrong things already. 
> > 
> > On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:27:33 AM UTC, Sue Linda wrote: 
> >> 
> >> in your considered thoughts, the state of life would be more like a 
> child 
> >> 
> >> like mind who knows nothing of death, nor of life but enjoys each 
> moment 
> >> that arrives.  It is only by the events of evil works brought on a 
> child 
> >> does it lean the effects of danger.  Consider children as our teachers. 
> >>  Before they learn of "evil" that being events that cause harm, the 
> child 
> >> 
> >> only lives in the moment and acts of "evil" on another child is rare. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 7:05:54 PM UTC-6, RP Singh wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Suppose there had been no consciousness and the entire world had been 
> >>> there but all unconscious , what would be the Truth? Just death , 
> nothing 
> >>> 
> >>> else. Consciousness is what makes life , a proof that there is 
> something 
> >>> 
> >>> which exists , Existence itself and not death. Look at the stars , the 
> >>> solar system , if it had self-direction where would we be? It all 
> obeys 
> >>> laws and that is the reason for order in the universe and not chaos. 
> What 
> >>> 
> >>> would humanity have been if we were not bound by our nature , no laws 
> of 
> >>> 
> >>> biology , psychology , etc. , no predictability , no comfort that we 
> >>> would 
> >>> return to our homes at night ,no assurance that we would return home 
> from 
> >>> 
> >>> work . Unpredictability is still there but it is minor , mostly there 
> is 
> >>> 
> >>> satisfaction and assurance of well-being. 
> >>> 
> >> 
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