I don't know how a person can be sidelined like this , maybe that is the
experience he is bound to , as being the very will of God.

On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:

> A quick google of "awareness consciousness" brings up much of the current
> discussion on the matter.  Here is an explanation from a guy I prefer (a
> sculpture, Facilitator, but also a non-dual philosopher.)
> http://non-duality.rupertspira.com/read/is_awareness_the_same_as_consciousness_oasg_13
>
>
> Of course, one would have to experience what is being discussed to
> actually have anything other than speculation or opinion (mental
> constructs.) Since the experience requires going beyond mind...(won't bore
> you with the P word again.)
>
> Agree, Neil, that the discussion may lead to the experience after the
> onion of the story is peeled. This may well be the worth of this group and
> what keeps us coming back.
>
> Being a big fan of St. Therese, Sue, I welcome your thoughts to the
> group.  There is much to be said for innocence once the mind becomes a well
> oiled machine, firing only when mechanically necessary, much like a strong
> healthy heart that just keeps beating. Welcome.
>
>
> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 5:34:15 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> You have never studied the lesson a child teaches?
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 7:54 AM
>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Consciousness
>>
>> Considering children as our teachers sounds very interesting.  In a
>> sense, literature has done some of this with the 'noble savage' theme -
>> though anthropology tells us primitive societies are very violent, even
>> when we factor war into ours.  Kids enjoying each other, like my dogs
>> meeting their pals in the park, always moves me. 'Buster' is a particular
>> friend of my two.  One has to do something to organise children's play (and
>> the dogs') and eliminate obvious dangers.  This includes difficult
>> reasoning on not over-supervising.  We make provision for the future,
>> rather than live every day as it comes.  I think we have become neurotic on
>> how we do this and should be providing security in order that we can be
>> more in the moment and not worrying so much.  Sadly, much living in the
>> moment is consumed with the wrong things already.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:27:33 AM UTC, Sue Linda wrote:
>>>
>>> in your considered thoughts, the state of life would be more like a
>>> child like mind who knows nothing of death, nor of life but enjoys each
>>> moment that arrives.  It is only by the events of evil works brought on a
>>> child does it lean the effects of danger.  Consider children as our
>>> teachers.  Before they learn of "evil" that being events that cause harm,
>>> the child only lives in the moment and acts of "evil" on another child is
>>> rare.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 7:05:54 PM UTC-6, RP Singh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Suppose there had been no consciousness and the entire world had been
>>>> there but all unconscious , what would be the Truth? Just death , nothing
>>>> else. Consciousness is what makes life , a proof that there is something
>>>> which exists , Existence itself and not death. Look at the stars , the
>>>> solar system , if it had self-direction where would we be? It all obeys
>>>> laws and that is the reason for order in the universe and not chaos. What
>>>> would humanity have been if we were not bound by our nature , no laws of
>>>> biology , psychology , etc. , no predictability , no comfort that we would
>>>> return to our homes at night ,no assurance that we would return home from
>>>> work . Unpredictability is still there but it is minor , mostly there is
>>>> satisfaction and assurance of well-being.
>>>>
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