I know RP.. thank you تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
-----Original Message----- From: RP Singh <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence Allan, medical science has developed a lot and nowadays we have brain tonics which make thinking clearer. Ask your doctor,he will be able to help you here. On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 12:20:28 AM UTC+5:30, Allan Heretic wrote: > > RP part of my problem is medical in nature.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected] <javascript:>> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected] <javascript:>> > Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence > > Words are used to convey meaning, yet meaning can still be communicated in > simple language as long as the idea is clear in the mind. If you have > clarity of thought you will communicate meaning in some way or other, > flowery language is not a necessity. Allan, you have enough words to > communicate, just develop clarity of thought. > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:36 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> >> (sigh) if only my english was so good.. >> >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> To: [email protected] <javascript:> >> Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 6:21 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence >> >> Equafinality is a word most have not heard, yet just means there may be >> many roads to the same outcome. Id, ego and super-ego are just terms from >> Freud and various origins in religion and literature (Attic tragedy, >> Goethe, Shakespeare). Some receive 'I think therefore I am' as 'clever', >> others mistrust the grounding, even of doubt, in this glib form of >> philosophy based on "presence". Like Allan, some have it that this >> wordy-merdey is just a form of dominating presence itself. Science can >> easily beat people up by asking them to integrate, differentiate, work out >> vectors, draw curves from data and even do and record some simple >> measurements. If Gabby and I met (and the bullets missed), we would have >> to speak in English for me to understand as my German is even more >> schoolboy than the rest of me. Unless blind, most of us could look down a >> microscope and see Brownian motion (bits from pollen grains buffeted by >> molecules), but most of us lack the language to understand this (one does >> not see the molecules or the physics of a potential pathway to the stars). >> >> Tony's tent is not a bad example of a tensor system (Einstein - but the >> ideas come from how bridges stay up), though guy-ropes need some slack as I >> remember. >> >> "With respect to many, if not most issues, there exist significant >> differences of opinion among individuals who seem to be equally >> knowledgeable and sincere. Individuals who apparently have access to the >> same information and are equally interested in the truth affirm >> incompatible perspectives on, for instance, significant social, political, >> and economic issues. Such diversity of opinion, though, is nowhere more >> evident than in the area of religious thought. On almost every religious >> issue, honest, knowledgeable people hold significantly diverse, often >> incompatible beliefs." >> >> "Alston suggests that our inability to describe the elements of >> religious-mystical experiences from a phenomenological point of view does >> not imply that they lack a distinctive phenomenology, or that they fail to >> be directed at some mind-independent reality, in rather the way that sense >> experiences are. We lack a relevant vocabulary, he argues, because we >> cannot construct any simple correlation between a range of “stimulus >> conditions” for mystical perception and the kinds of experience which are >> likely to arise under those conditions. And therefore we cannot refine a >> vocabulary for the description of mystical experience by replication of >> relevant conditions and renewed attention to the phenomenology of the >> experiences that occur under those conditions. By contrast, there is no >> difficulty in general in specifying the phenomenology of an experience of, >> say, turning one's face into a breeze, because it is easy to recreate the >> stimulus conditions for such an experience, and we can therefore attend >> repeatedly to the character of the experience. And since others can also do >> this, we can establish a public language for the description of such >> experiences." >> >> It all gets wordy-merdey pretty quickly and many are not good with words >> or other forms of representation. Sue is just back from work and my heart >> skipped a beat (not really of course) and yesterday Max swam the river to >> get to a family of deer on the other side. I thought I might have to rush >> across to save the deer from harassment, but the lad just looked, seemed to >> chat and came back. A snake told me he wasn't a serpent (well, he actually >> told me that with different HOX genes he would have fingers to make the >> appropriate gesture to artists for there aeons of misrepresentation). It >> is true snakes could grow legs if we could manipulate their HOX genes. The >> rest is not something we should be silent on. I can explain the HOX set-up >> in detail. The mystic is more difficult. In fact, the detail of presence, >> is overwhelming. >> >> On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>> >>> Allan, O.K. it is just a discussion, but tell me how I am threatening or >>> controlling. >>> >>> " the problem develops in the threatening and controlling manner that >>> is implied.. " >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:27 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Good morning world,, omnipresence if I didn't know better I would >>>> think it was RP type word.. I has the same type of d&d. >>>> One I think that is one of those teachings though in reality it is >>>> actually true,, the problem develops in the threatening and controlling >>>> manner that is implied.. >>>> >>>> To me it seems many theologians are all about mudding the issue be >>>> insisting they have the only true and accurate understanding of what is >>>> said. Very closed minded in how ideas are viewed. There seems to be a >>>> need >>>> to have an attitude of my God is greater than your God. >>>> >>>> I think what I am always searching for is how to have a closer >>>> harmonious interaction with the presence as I understand him. The I Ching >>>> is one resource I use when I need to make am important decision. I like >>>> reading the I Ching ( tossing the coins ) creates a randomness in thought. >>>> >>>> Oddly I never >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>> To: "[email protected] <javascript:>" <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:>> >>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 8:54 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence >>>> >>>> Okay, let me try once more. Apart from the presence there is the >>>> superego and the baser drives that in one way or another serve the >>>> presence. The One is the frame within all this is bound to happen. Better >>>> now? >>>> >>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. Februar 2015 schrieb RP Singh <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:>>: >>>> >>>>> Nope, the presence is the better you and the worse you, the superego >>>>> is developed through the stages of your life whereas the worse you , the >>>>> id >>>>> , are your baser drives which continuously challenge you and corrupting >>>>> your reason as well. The One is the source behind the universe which >>>>> inexorably binds everyone so subtly that it is hard to understand. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Gabby <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It is the "presence of the better of you" that had Neil remind you of >>>>>> the "presence of the worse" also. Only when both sides are integrated, >>>>>> he >>>>>> would allow for "true". I conclude the true presence can be situated in >>>>>> the >>>>>> past, present, future and would match your definition of the One. 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