Keep taking the tulips Allan. On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 7:46:59 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > I know RP.. thank you > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence > > Allan, medical science has developed a lot and nowadays we have brain > tonics which make thinking clearer. Ask your doctor,he will be able to help > you here. > > On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 12:20:28 AM UTC+5:30, Allan Heretic > wrote: >> >> RP part of my problem is medical in nature.. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 7:46 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence >> >> Words are used to convey meaning, yet meaning can still be communicated >> in simple language as long as the idea is clear in the mind. If you have >> clarity of thought you will communicate meaning in some way or other, >> flowery language is not a necessity. Allan, you have enough words to >> communicate, just develop clarity of thought. >> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:36 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> (sigh) if only my english was so good.. >>> >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 6:21 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence >>> >>> Equafinality is a word most have not heard, yet just means there may be >>> many roads to the same outcome. Id, ego and super-ego are just terms from >>> Freud and various origins in religion and literature (Attic tragedy, >>> Goethe, Shakespeare). Some receive 'I think therefore I am' as 'clever', >>> others mistrust the grounding, even of doubt, in this glib form of >>> philosophy based on "presence". Like Allan, some have it that this >>> wordy-merdey is just a form of dominating presence itself. Science can >>> easily beat people up by asking them to integrate, differentiate, work out >>> vectors, draw curves from data and even do and record some simple >>> measurements. If Gabby and I met (and the bullets missed), we would have >>> to speak in English for me to understand as my German is even more >>> schoolboy than the rest of me. Unless blind, most of us could look down a >>> microscope and see Brownian motion (bits from pollen grains buffeted by >>> molecules), but most of us lack the language to understand this (one does >>> not see the molecules or the physics of a potential pathway to the stars). >>> >>> Tony's tent is not a bad example of a tensor system (Einstein - but the >>> ideas come from how bridges stay up), though guy-ropes need some slack as I >>> remember. >>> >>> "With respect to many, if not most issues, there exist significant >>> differences of opinion among individuals who seem to be equally >>> knowledgeable and sincere. Individuals who apparently have access to the >>> same information and are equally interested in the truth affirm >>> incompatible perspectives on, for instance, significant social, political, >>> and economic issues. Such diversity of opinion, though, is nowhere more >>> evident than in the area of religious thought. On almost every religious >>> issue, honest, knowledgeable people hold significantly diverse, often >>> incompatible beliefs." >>> >>> "Alston suggests that our inability to describe the elements of >>> religious-mystical experiences from a phenomenological point of view does >>> not imply that they lack a distinctive phenomenology, or that they fail to >>> be directed at some mind-independent reality, in rather the way that sense >>> experiences are. We lack a relevant vocabulary, he argues, because we >>> cannot construct any simple correlation between a range of “stimulus >>> conditions” for mystical perception and the kinds of experience which are >>> likely to arise under those conditions. And therefore we cannot refine a >>> vocabulary for the description of mystical experience by replication of >>> relevant conditions and renewed attention to the phenomenology of the >>> experiences that occur under those conditions. By contrast, there is no >>> difficulty in general in specifying the phenomenology of an experience of, >>> say, turning one's face into a breeze, because it is easy to recreate the >>> stimulus conditions for such an experience, and we can therefore attend >>> repeatedly to the character of the experience. And since others can also do >>> this, we can establish a public language for the description of such >>> experiences." >>> >>> It all gets wordy-merdey pretty quickly and many are not good with words >>> or other forms of representation. Sue is just back from work and my heart >>> skipped a beat (not really of course) and yesterday Max swam the river to >>> get to a family of deer on the other side. I thought I might have to rush >>> across to save the deer from harassment, but the lad just looked, seemed to >>> chat and came back. A snake told me he wasn't a serpent (well, he actually >>> told me that with different HOX genes he would have fingers to make the >>> appropriate gesture to artists for there aeons of misrepresentation). It >>> is true snakes could grow legs if we could manipulate their HOX genes. The >>> rest is not something we should be silent on. I can explain the HOX set-up >>> in detail. The mystic is more difficult. In fact, the detail of presence, >>> is overwhelming. >>> >>> On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>>> >>>> Allan, O.K. it is just a discussion, but tell me how I am threatening >>>> or controlling. >>>> >>>> " the problem develops in the threatening and controlling manner >>>> that is implied.. " >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good morning world,, omnipresence if I didn't know better I would >>>>> think it was RP type word.. I has the same type of d&d. >>>>> One I think that is one of those teachings though in reality it is >>>>> actually true,, the problem develops in the threatening and controlling >>>>> manner that is implied.. >>>>> >>>>> To me it seems many theologians are all about mudding the issue be >>>>> insisting they have the only true and accurate understanding of what is >>>>> said. Very closed minded in how ideas are viewed. There seems to be a >>>>> need >>>>> to have an attitude of my God is greater than your God. >>>>> >>>>> I think what I am always searching for is how to have a closer >>>>> harmonious interaction with the presence as I understand him. The I Ching >>>>> is one resource I use when I need to make am important decision. I like >>>>> reading the I Ching ( tossing the coins ) creates a randomness in >>>>> thought. >>>>> Oddly I never >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 8:54 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence >>>>> >>>>> Okay, let me try once more. Apart from the presence there is the >>>>> superego and the baser drives that in one way or another serve the >>>>> presence. The One is the frame within all this is bound to happen. Better >>>>> now? >>>>> >>>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. Februar 2015 schrieb RP Singh <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Nope, the presence is the better you and the worse you, the superego >>>>>> is developed through the stages of your life whereas the worse you , the >>>>>> id >>>>>> , are your baser drives which continuously challenge you and corrupting >>>>>> your reason as well. The One is the source behind the universe which >>>>>> inexorably binds everyone so subtly that it is hard to understand. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Gabby <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is the "presence of the better of you" that had Neil remind you >>>>>>> of the "presence of the worse" also. Only when both sides are >>>>>>> integrated, >>>>>>> he would allow for "true". I conclude the true presence can be situated >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the past, present, future and would match your definition of the One. >>>>>>> Right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>>> topic/minds-eye/TplDVV1N_zw/unsubscribe. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >
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