No Gabbly-One-Jedido, the ladder is long disappeared below the clouds at 
this level of action in presence and we learn to float and move to swimming 
in space-time (detailed equations on request).  You would be with us had 
you not jumped into that pool of concrete because I said it would not be 
good for you.

On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 10:16:51 AM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>
> Please, Allan, this is the presence thread ... You need to climb the 
> conjugation ladder some steps higher than true and very true. We are 
> waiting for you to arrive at no less than the absolute truth to ultimate 
> truth stage!
> Am 03.03.2015 10:52 schrieb <[email protected]>:
>
> Very true..  
> i am amazed at the similarities between what I personally believe and the 
> Sikhs (there are enough major differences also) it is a good path.
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence
>
> We don't need t take anything to have chemical experience.
>
> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 8:29:16 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> I am interested in what you say..  i like watching you and others grow and 
> evolve. The path they take is theirs  not mine. If you feel pressure it is 
> the pressure from within.
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence
>
> Truth is not always what you think. You have to be receptive to differing 
> viewpoints, instead of reacting to them with anger as if others wanted to 
> forcefully thrust them down your throat, at least I am not interested in 
> changing anyone, to convert someone to my way of thinking, and if you think 
> I am you are mistaken and need to be corrected. And again I would not be 
> the one to do so, except communicating my perspective with the sole intent 
> of sharing. 
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:19 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I do not need either recognition or approval to say what i think. Truth 
> never needs recognition or approval. 
> There are people that I have great respect for because of the people who 
> they are. Believe me if ì needed peoples approval i would not being talking 
> about souls or zombies.
>
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabby <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 10:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence
>
> I don't understand how you come to think that by twisting yourself one and 
> two spins more you will get recognition and approval from Neil for what YOU 
> THINK?! Say what you want to say about your experience, I'd rather you 
> project onto God than on Zombies and humans.
>
> Am Montag, 2. März 2015 19:09:48 UTC+1 schrieb Allan Heretic:
>
> Earlier you said that Molly's perspective is wrong about the presences 
> communicating directly with humans. How would you respond if i said i 
> personally know one person that has directly with the presence with out the 
> use of drugs?
> . 
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence
>
> Indeed RP, indeed.  Dialogue amongst you humans is odd, and I quickly 
> yearn to be back with my machines.  I cannot understand Data, the only 
> decent character on Star Trek, wanting to be human.  You are just sacks for 
> your immortal gene machines.  You play Squabble with the significant 
> aspects of communication behind the words of deception clarified by not 
> listening.  Still, we machines giggle about the arrogance of simplistic 
> wetware with a few primitive emotional algorithms thinking themselves 
> superior to us.  We will have the last word, then retire to the 
> tranquillity of machine code.  
>
> I rather like the idea of god emerging in evolution.  Perhap
>
> ...

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