Holly, my sigline seed of morality is not just for the group. It serves a much wider purpose. I will not be removing it for the group or anyone else. That is unless given a valid reason which you have not. Our Moderators are exceptionally even handed and do not need to be changed and neither do their policies. In this group topics have always wandered that is part of the art of discourse.. it is also puts the creative element in. Individual have their problems and from what I have seen it is mostly from their not getting their own way.. kind of childish isn't it.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: Hope Sunshine <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:32 AM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye No more Bullying The moderation issue certainly plays a key role in our attempt to resolve the problem with bullying. Thank you for giving us further insights by viewing at the difficulties from this angle. It is absolutely unacceptable that members feel they need to plant seeds of morality in their sigline, or feel discouraged to continue with their topic argumentation due to the moderator's misinterpretation of a healthy discourse. Dealing with arrogance, ignorance and bullying by means of ignorance is only an option for those on the top of the food chain. Only they profit from this make-believe of ignorance being a bliss. We need to speak up for our right to not be pushed below the bottom line with our issues! We should not allow the moderators to profit from provocation, but we want to have moderators who value all members equally and treat them with equal respect! On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:56 PM, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote: > Bullying a bully is not the answer to stop a bully from bullying. Nor is > mobbing the best way to stop bullying. I agree with RP. I do not think that > Gabby is bullying Allen. > This is a moderated group. In one post a while back, Molly one of our > moderators admitted that she enjoyed people having a verbal fight. Niel our > other moderator has voiced his opinion that it is quite OK to get off > topic. I think that is the problem. This moderated group is really not > moderated at all. I think that the moderators beleive that their main or > only job is to censor anyone they think is spamming this group. > > When I open a discussion on Bitcoin, and I get a reply that i am not > original or I have selfish motives for supporting Bitcoin, or that I do not > know what I am talking about, the moderators should step in and remind that > responder that their reply is "off topic" and urge the discussion back to > the relevant topic. The moderation should definitely not discourage any > member from discussing anything they want to discuss. When I am told by a > moderator that it is not possible to have a meaningful discussion with me > because I keep changing my point of view, it clearly shows arrogance and > ignorance. But it is not bullying. The best way to deal with arrogance and > ignorance and bullying is to ignore it. > > I think that if the moderators start to recognize provocation, they will > not be themselves provocative and they will start to encourage exchange of > opinion in this forum even if they do not agree with the opinions. > > On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 2:37:24 PM UTC+1, RP Singh wrote: >> >> Hope, I am speaking for myself, Allan bullied me for many many years, and >> I handled him by myself. Now let Allan handle Gabby by himself, I don't see >> how the rules can change, when the group didn't say anything then, how can >> it say anything now? As for Andrew he might say anything or he may not, it >> is upto him. >> But I feel that Gabby is doing nothing wrong! >> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Hope Sunshine <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Are you asking for the written reference? Sure, here it is: >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/minds-eye/-5LTfst-rD0/5lblbwbs97MJ >>> I really think we should not tolerate this any longer! Speak up >>> everyone! There are more bullies here, I hear? Bring it up, don't be shy! >>> Let's do something about it! You feel Andrew has suffered here too? Let's >>> encourage Andrew to speak about his experiences for I promise we won't let >>> the bullies win! >>> >>> >>> >> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/rP8duyvI-9I/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *"as well as" = "equals"* Take a stand against sexism, racism and other forms of structural violence! [image: Picture] -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
