Excellent video and web page.  There is recall visiting a small museum hidden 
under a cover you could lift a cover and read from one of Eisenstein's 
journal.. what an exciting moment seeing the actual  work in his own hand..  ( 
if we meet here for a visit Neil  we will have to go and view this treasure)

I agree with out the presence science to me has no value. In the movie they 
talk about crossing the time space barrier you cross to make the connection 
with the presence and the reservoir of total knowledge contained within.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 5:36 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics

The most beautiful and profound emotion we can experience is the sensation 
of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this 
emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is 
good as dead.
When I examine myself and my methods of thought, I come to the conclusion 
that the gift of fantasy has meant more to me than my talent for absorbing 
positive knowledge

Einstein.

This guy has kindly put together 800 Einstein quotes 
- http://www.gurteen.com/gurteen/gurteen.nsf/id/X0001134E/


My potted version of Einstein working on Relativity and the quantum is not 
so mystical.  The rock and hard place of his time were Maxwell's great 
equations of forces we can't see (mystical sort of) and contradictory 
empirical evidence from experiment (Hopf was the great experimenter), 
 Newton and Galileo had also 'noticed relativity'.  Einstein read a lot and 
so knew of the rock and hard place.  Even a few school teachers (Abbott) 
had noticed the 'relativity of dimensions'.  Einstein had really worked 
hard on maths most people still don't do and almost certainly cannot. 
 Poincarre and Lorentz had already produced 'mathematical transformations' 
that were the solution seed,  Instead of hammering away trying to prove 
Maxwell or the experimenters right, Einstein searched for an underlying 
kinematics to reconcile both.  We might now call this a Wittgensteinian 
deconstruction, finding what is common deep in apparently conflicting 
arguments. 

Everyone in this group, except Gabby (no not really, I'm emphasizing here 
her important notion of the role of the dunce in the corner, the speed of 
inertial violence) will admit they are short on positive knowledge, too 
idle or unskilled to do what Einstein did.  Of course, we don't have 
relativity or quantum physics because of Einstein.  There were many others 
and it is even possible we might have moved further through modified 
Newtonianism. 

The following short video is a science-religion meet kinda thingy.  I 
regard it as utter, exploitative crap, that works on ignorance, half-baked 
ideas and marketing to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BiTWFdnd7Q


To rework current very silly arguments in which 'bright' people like 
Dawkins take on idiot creationists, we need to go down deeper, yet at the 
same time not insist participants have 'huge qualifications' in positive 
knowledge that attempt to make silk purses out of our sows' ears.  This is 
a tough one.  


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