Knowing more than Tony is easy.  Like Zaphod Beeblebrox, his ego is bigger 
than imagination from a slice of Proust's angel cake that took him back to 
an aunty's.  Using such power to visit an aunt reveals a lack of knowledge 
or a very dull boy.  As Tony cannot be the latter, one presumes the former, 
though this does not exclude the possibility his ego is bigger than the 
universe itself.

Not all mysticism requires a deity Allan.  There is maths without zero or 
numbers.  Positing absolutes is not necessary.  It seems you are a 
Platonist mate.  I'm sure the following will put you right.  I was into 
this kind of thing once but got a headache.  My interest was in how 
infinite regresses might not be:
'Mathematics without Numbers: Towards a Modal-Structural Interpretation'
Geoffrey Hellman

Develops a structuralist understanding of mathematics, as an alternative to 
set‐ or type‐theoretic foundations, that respects classical mathematical 
truth while minimizing Platonist commitments to abstract entities. Modal 
logic is combined with notions of part/whole (mereology) enabling a 
systematic interpretation of ordinary mathematical statements as asserting 
what would be the case in any (suitable) structure there (logically) might 
be, e.g. for number theory, functional analysis, algebra, pure geometry, 
etc. Structures are understood as comprising objects, whatever their 
nature, standing in suitable relations as given by axioms or defining 
conditions in mathematics proper. The characterization of structures is 
aided by the addition of plural quantifiers, e.g. ‘Any objects of sort F’ 
corresponding to arbitrary collections of Fs, achieving the expressive 
power of second‐order logic, hence a full logic of relations. (See the 
author's ‘Structuralism without Structures’, Philosophia Mathematica 4 
(1996): 100–123.) Claims of absolute existence of structures are replaced 
by claims of (logical) possibility of enough structurally interrelated 
objects (modal‐existence postulates). The vast bulk of ordinary 
mathematics, and scientific applications, can thus be recovered on the 
basis of the possibility of a countable infinity of atoms. As applied to 
set theory itself, these ideas lead to a ‘many worlds’—– as opposed to the 
standard ‘fixed universe’—view, inspired by Zermelo (1930), respecting the 
unrestricted, indefinite extendability of models of the Zermelo–Fraenkel 
axioms. Natural motivation for (‘small’) large cardinal axioms is thus 
provided. In sum, the vast bulk of abstract mathematics is respected as 
objective, while literal reference to abstracta and related problems with 
Platonism are eliminated.

This guy is easy.  For a bit of detail I suggest Alain de Connes, who 
publishes all his work free on his website.  Run through the stuff and give 
me the gist, will you old chap?  It's all a bit mystic to me.  And start 
counting that infinity of atoms (without number) so we can get out for a 
bike ride after sorting all this tomorrow morning.

One whether zero is even, we might say 'odd knows'.  
[image: (2x)/((x-1)^2)=2x+4x^2+6x^3+8x^4+....]  is the generating function. 
 Any four year old knows this, but only a few of us survive it all being 
beaten out by teechers.  Remarkable how things work.  Only a fool would not 
have the coffee and aspirin ready when dealing with this stuff.

On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:14:55 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Sorry Tony that is nothing more than a school book answer. .
>
> And I know several  different perspectives to "I am" apparently more than 
> you know. That is what is confusing. 
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>
> Neil, Allan.  Seriously?  I have finally found the knowledge blocker!
>
> I don't know what you mean "bigger than god?"
>
> Look up "I Am"  
>
> "Before Abraham was, *I am* - (a study of the phrase "*I am*") 
> <http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVzWIhQhVpm4A6DlXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzM3VoNW44BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM0BHZ0aWQDVklQMjg0XzEEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1426650633/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.assemblyoftrueisrael.com%2fDocuments%2fI_AM.htm/RK=0/RS=EegWRKyN_MlX8uHbwkz5e8tE8dg->
> www.assemblyoftrueisrael.com/Documents/*I_AM*.htmCached 
> <http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVzWIhQhVpm4A6TlXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzM3VoNW44BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM0BHZ0aWQDVklQMjg0XzEEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1426650633/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2f98.139.21.31%2fsearch%2fsrpcache%3fp%3dI%2bAm%26ei%3dUTF-8%26fr%3dyfp-t-901%26fp%3d1%26u%3dhttp%3a%2f%2fcc.bingj.com%2fcache.aspx%3fq%3dI%2bAm%26d%3d4618882283536716%26mkt%3den-US%26setlang%3den-US%26w%3dz9pNzcqVUPY0bKxfhCo3WX19yxI6xM8k%26icp%3d1%26.intl%3dus%26sig%3dRn1lkgikaTiR8Xh8NonXmg--/RK=0/RS=vYcN9sOhuW4YiKLlGW9xTOkAvXw->
>
> And Elohim said unto Moses, *I AM* THAT *I AM*: and He said, Thus shalt 
> thou say unto the children of Israel, *I AM* hath sent me unto you.
>
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